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    You have expressed many lucid points. If you do desire to cultivate your energy, I would suggest starting with the classic texts of the Taoists of any other form of "time tested" spiritual practice. Many of them carry the seed of transcendence in them, much like the sexual encounters you are holding out for. Having an ultimate goal in mind with a personal practice is sometimes a inhibitor of growth. But in the beginning, it is beneficial to see changes take place within one's awareness; like being able to control the sexual desire and understanding why one is doing so. Retention is certainly not a universal approach, and many do it for different reasons; and many don't do it at all. Ultimately it comes down to a simple tenant: You are the one responsible for your qi. Thanks for sharing, Tsuki.
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    Hi Tsuki, A simple question: What is the purpose of your cultivation?
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    I can chime in on this discussion and share my experiences. I have learned much about "mind" and what makes "mind" work in the practice of refraining from self-satisfaction. In all honesty, it has been an easy process for me. I should probably have picked something that I am more addicted to. Currently, it has been 100+ days since the last time I had a conscious sexual climax. The last time consciously was with another person. In all, I have self-satisfied three times in 2013. Two of the three were part of my "experiment", and for the purposes of self-observation. I utilized no mental imagery in the process and intended to "love" myself. The third, I will admit, I gave in after an encounter with someone whom I have a great chemistry with. She gave me permission to use her image if I needed to as we do not live close to one another on a regular basis. I say that last part because I desire to be respectful with intent, and wish not to steal from anyone else. I have been the subject of lustful attention, both in person and at a distance, and it is a powerful thing. Non-locality is very viable and very real. I do not share all this information, but for the purposes of discussion. I am not looking for any accolades or to pat myself on the back. I will say two nights ago I had a nocturnal emission, and I have no recollection of any dream that inspired such a result. I don't view dreams as a one-way street (meaning that the creation of dreams is a co-creatve process with my physical existence), and understand that perhaps my body just needed to release some jing essence. This is the second nocturnal emission I have had during this time. Before that, the last time was in 1996 when I was 17. The first one this year was facilitated by a rather sexually intrusive and lusty "demon" in the dreamscape. I was ambushed by this character which would not let me go in the dream until I reached climax. Right before it happened, I woke up in my dream, but it was too late. I am currently practicing qi-gong as well as going through a personal process of internal alchemy. My energy body is in quite a transitional phase, which I feel is also adding to my lack of desire. In my experience, everything comes down to the the mind and what it feels it wants. The mind is susceptible to suggestion and temptation seemingly at every corner, until one chooses to alter this process. (Nothing new, just stating what I have realized). These suggestions can be as simple as habitually scratching ones head, or as complicated as being addicted to knowledge and "greater" ways of describing the seeming infinite complexity of our existence. I have done both. In our world of "anonymity", where one can hide behind online personalities offered in the comfort of the warm glow of a computer screen, there is mental temptation everywhere. Often the temptation is subtle, and it is generally a temptation to distract one from themselves and their "genuine" Self. The only real "judge" in the matter is the individual. This, in many ways, is what the experience of being human is, but a computer, to me, amplifies the process since it is basically a completely ego/mind experience. There is little movement physically, while the mind does somersaults and other forms of mental gymnastics. Compared to limiting my getting swept away in the internet and what it can offer my rapacious mind, abstaining from masturbation has been a cake walk. I do not say this to disrespect any who have had difficulty with this practice, just to be honest. I know there are "spiritual benefits" to abstaining from masturbation, but I will limit any of my discussion on them till I learn more on that front. Generally, qi usage is qi usage, whether it be through physical masturbation or mental. I re-iterate, this choice was made for self-observational purposes, as well as out of respect for others whose image I may have used in the past. In general, my energy has always settled much higher in my body, and in fact, grounding myself has been the most regular practice and most challenging for me. This may be another reason why sex has been a take it or leave it thing for me for most of my adult life. Sex is also one of the most emotionally charged experiences we can have as humans, and generally it is no longer respected for the truly creative experience it can be. I do not plan to engage with anyone else unless their understanding of what it can be is similar to mine. As for masturbation, the desire honestly never arises. Even as I talk about it now, it simply feels like a foreign act that I choose not to participate in. Were I on Seinfeld, I might have won some money by now... Much love, peeps.
  4. [HHC Study] Hua Hu Ching Chapter 12

    still enjoying... :-)
  5. [HHC Study] Hua Hu Ching Chapter 12

    I have much enjoyed the back and forth of this conversation :-) Thank you both for sharing.
  6. [HHC Study] Hua Hu Ching Chapter 12

    Ahhh yes :-) I lived north of Pittsburgh my teens. The easy answer is that every action is some form of "energy work", to me at least. Every thought and intention being the expressive/manifested aspect of "qi". You are correct in the specific practice of "energy work" in that if the cause of the imbalances are not addressed, the results will be short-lived. I have had a wonderful opportunity to to qi-gong "healing" on other people. Call it whatever you want though. It mostly has consisted of grounding the person, and getting them in touch with their own "spark" of infinity. Nothing special, as I feel we can all do this, but I will say these experiences have allowed me to connect with people on the closest of levels. Such an honor to have the opportunity. This is the energy work with a purpose, since there is a desire to understand the imbalance, instead of just fixing it. I don't perceive attainment of the "Tao" as being some sort of destination, though it can be seen as such in a life based in linear time. It can be a consistent intended goal to align oneself, but it seems to me to be a bit more like remembering what is "primordial" and forgetting what has been learned. Is it possible to be a functional human in the fast-paced world and still fall into alignment? I feel it is, but as you said, it is not easy sometimes. The illusion of separation is very real to me. I am reminded of HHC #80 saying that "enlightenment is not the end, but the means". The question my mind always asks is "how will we know we are ever there?" haha :-) Thank you for sharing your thoughts and giving me an opportunity to share mine.
  7. [HHC Study] Hua Hu Ching Chapter 12

    I was reading through the HHC today and noted I would be curious to pose the question to the "Bums" about this.... Any thoughts on the "8 energy rays"? When I read 8 I think the 7 chakras and the first closest to the head. In a sense, as with the grains of sand observation, this seems to be "fracturing" the "One". Energy work sets to balance energies, but simply in aligning with the feeling of the "Tao" it seems the energies align themselves. Any thoughts/feelings about that part. I did enjoy reading your back and forth on the matter. Thank you.
  8. Calling Out All Taoists

    How can anyone know who is "diving in" or not? An online forum is inherently intellectual in its means of expression. I know what you are saying, and I have asked the same question, but becoming fixated on an answer to that question tends to limit the "diving in" potential to me. Just from my own experience. Most of my genuine "Taoist" responses to posts on the forum, are never expressed :-)
  9. Outside linear time, the concept of re-incarnating doesn't completely jive as things can be perceived as happening simultaneously in "parallel" existences, until perhaps one aspect of "shen" pulls enough experience together in a single life time to move beyond a karmic condition, perhaps thus freeing all other aspects of the karmic condition as well. Perhaps some of these parallel existences are not even of the Earthly system. Robert Monroe speaks of this in his accounts. It is all pure speculation for me, so I won't spend much more energy thinking about it. :-)
  10. The MCO is Taoist fundamentalism

    Thank you for your elaboration. Which MCO are you speaking of? There are multiple. I think your concerns are valid, and I am interested to see others who have consistently practiced the MCO to chime in about their own personal experiences with it. I will add if someone isn't very grounded, and generally is carrying around a lot of unprocessed emotional energy, this sort of stuff CAN be dangerous. Qi deviation syndrome is a very legitimate "ailment" in my experience. I practice the bringing up in the back and letting it fall in the front. I find that this feels very natural to me and it by no means forced. There are others I have learned, but I do not feel compelled to pursue them at this point as they tend to run against my normal qi flow.
  11. Are you of the opinion that it will make an appearance into the collective reality? I hesitate to put a time frame on it.
  12. Ahh yes, Nibiru... I have spent enough time slogging through many a rabbit hole to get to the point where I probably won't poop myself if it ever makes an appearance in our skies. Though there are many different interpretations of it. Care to share yours, SOTG?
  13. As a former "intellectual predator" I can attest to vampiring qi in order to literally feel better. Only when I discovered my own ability to create enough energetics to be happy and functional did the desire to intellectually intimidate and dominate others go away.
  14. I agree, and perhaps Huxley was aware of it, though he definitely takes the position of an esteemed "intellectual" in this passage. I feel he is lamenting his abundance of knowledge which has not been transformed into a means of "living the way". Whether he got it or not, is immaterial to me as he is writing about something that often plagues the human mind. Nature/nurture, predisposition etc...
  15. Becomethepath mentioned a Huxley quote above. Huxley was an interesting character, who, I feel had a bit more of an agenda. I have included an excerpt from his book "Point Counterpoint" (1928). He describes rather eloquently the pitfalls of becoming too intellectual about life and not being able to integrate into society. I can relate to this excerpt because I have a penchant for intellectualism, and I used it to withdraw from society. I added the bold to parts I found a particular connection to. [...] The chief difference between us, alas, is that his opinions are lived and mine, in the main, only thought. Like him, I mistrust intellectualism, but intellectually, I disbelieve in the adequacy of any scientific or philosophical theory, any abstract moral principal, but on the scientific, philosophical, and abstract-moral grounds. The problem for me is to transform a detached intellectual scepticism into a way of harmonious all-around living. The course of every intellectual, if he pursues his journey long and unflinchinly enough, ends in the obvious, from which the non-intellectuals have never stirred. [...] Many intellectuals, of course, don’t get far enough to reach the obvious again. They remain stuck in a pathetic belief in rationalism and the absolute supremacy of mental values and the entirely conscious will. You’ve got to go further than the Nineteenth Century fellows, for example; as far at least as Protagoras and Pyrrho, before you get back to the obvious in which the non-intellectuals have always remained. And one must hasten to make it clear that these non-intellectuals aren’t the modern canaille who read the picture papers and listen-in and jazz and are preocupied with making money and having the awful modern “good time”. No, no; one isn’t paying a compliment to the hard-headed business man or the low-brow. For, in spite of their stupidity and tastelessness and vulgarity and infantility (or rather because of all these defects), they aren’t the non-intellectuals I’m talking about. They take the main intellectualist axiom for granted-that there’s an intrinsic superiority in mental, conscious, voluntary life over physical, intuitive, instinctive, emotional life. The whole of modern civilization is based on the idea that the specialized function which gives a man his place in society is more important than the whole man, or rather is the whole man, all the rest being irrelevant or even (since the physical, intuitive, instinctive and emotional part of man doesn’t contribute appreciably to making money or getting on in an industrialized world) positively harmful and detestable. The low-brow of our modern industrialized society has all the defects of the intellectual and none of his redeeming qualities. The non-intellectuals I’m thinking of are very different beings. One might still find a few of them in Italy (though Fascism has probably turned them all into bad imitations of Americans and Prussians by this time); a few perhaps in Spain, in Greece, in Provence. Not elsewhere in modern Europe. There were probably quite a lot of them three thousand years ago. But the combined efforts of Plato and Aristotle, Jesus, Newton, and big business have turned their descendants into the modern bourgeoisie and proletariat. The obvious that the intellectual gets back to, if he goes far enough, isn’t, of course, the same as the obvious of the non-intellectuals. For their obvious is life itself and his recovered obvious is only the idea of that life. Not many can put flesh and blood on the idea and turn it into reality. [...] I perceive now that the real charm of the intellectual life – the life devoted to erudition, to scientific research, to philosophy, to aesthetics, to criticism – is its easiness. It´s the substitution of simple intellectual schemata for the complexities of reality; of still and formal death for the bewildering movements of life. It’s incomparably easier to know a lot, say, about the history of art and to have profound ideas about metaphysics and sociology than to know personally and intuitively a lot about one’s fellows and to have satisfactory relations with one’s friends and lovers, one’s wife and children. Living’s much more difficult than Sanskrit or chemistry or economics. The intellectual life is child’s play; which is why intellectuals tend to become children – and then imbeciles and finally, as the political and industrial history of the last few centuries clearly demonstrates, homicidal lunatics and wild beasts. The repressed functions don’t die; they deteriorate, they fester, they revert to primitiveness. But meanwhile it’s much easier to be an intellectual child or lunatic or beast than a harmonious adult man. That’s why (among other reasons) there’s such a demand for higher education. The rush to books and universities is like the rush to the public house. People want to drown their realization of the difficulties of living properly in this grotesque contemporary world, they want to forget their own deplorable inefficiency as artists in life. Some drown their sorrows in alcohol, but still more drown them in books and artistic dilettantism; some try to forget themselves in fornication, dancing, movies, listening-in, others in lectures and scientific hobbies. The books and lectures are better sorrow-drowners than drink and fornication; they leave no headache, none of that despairing post coitum triste feeling. Till quite recently, I must confess, I too took learning and philosophy and science – all the activities that are magniloquently lumped under the title of “The Search for Truth” – very seriously. I regarded the Search for Truth as the highest of human tasks and the Searchers as the noblest of men. But in the last year or so I have begun to see that this famous Search for Truth is just an amusement, a distraction like any other, a rather refined and elaborate substitute for genuine living; and that Truth-Searchers become just as silly, infantile, and corrupt in their way as the boozers, the pure aesthetes, the business men, the Good-Timers in theirs. I also perceived that the pursuit of Truth is just a polite name for the intellectual’s favourite pastime of substituting simple and therefore false abstractions for the living complexities of reality. But seeking Truth is much easier than learning the art of integral living (in which, of course, Truth-Seeking will take its due and proportionate place along with the other amusements, like skittles and mountain climbing). Which explains, though it doesn’t justify, my continued and excessive indulgence in the vices of informative reading and abstract generalization. Shall I ever have the strength of mind to break myself of these indolent habits of intellectualism and devote my energies to the more serious and difficult task of living integrally? And even if I did try to break these habits, shouldn’t I find that heredity was at the bottom of them and that I was congenitally incapable of living wholly and harmoniously?
  16. There seems to be times for solitude in the sense of being physically alone, and times to learn from interaction with other humans. Personally, the "Tao" is easy to see on a hilltop in autumn when no other human souls are around, but can that recognition and feeling be taken into the mall on a Friday night? Oh, how I have bemoaned the existence and lives of others who just didn't "get it". Of course, it was I who had yet to "get it" as I had yet to fully realize, remember and embody my primordial "beginning". There are still times where I do not embody this awareness, and the disharmony is instantaneous. Not acting on it has become my challenge.
  17. "Karma" is one of those words often utilized in the spiritual vernacular... I am curious to hear the various interpretations of "Karma" and how you apply this understanding in your life. If you wish to share, that is... Thank you.
  18. Beginnings

    Just from my own observations... Most any genuine pursuit of "spirituality" is a pursuit of forgotten simplicity and source. With this in mind, the "complex" becomes simple. If you are starting out as a conscious pursuer of "The Tao", keeping it simple is a very good first step, and one to never forget. I try to remind myself of this often as I have a tendency to be pretty cerebral about things. There are plenty around here that can offer guidance and insight, but it will all come back to you and how you embody your realizations. If you have confusion about something, seeking the council of others who have been "Walking the path" so-to-speak is a valuable activity. Ultimately, I have realized that most of the progression "forward" in the experience comes from the act of remembering and forgetting. This is very non-brute force, the usual default approach to getting things done in our material world, so often one has to learn how to do things without doing them. Enough of all that. All the best to you, J
  19. Become Taoist Priest?

    Then why even have a screename or come to an online forum where people use words and labels to describe "nothingness"? :-) It does take the practice of becoming "something" to realize one is ultimately "nothing". Thus is the paradox of life, to me at least. BTW Ren and Stimpy are awesome.
  20. Become Taoist Priest?

    For what it is worth, I am beginning a two year class tomorrow with an ordained Taoist Priest. Dr. Ted Cibik You can google him if you wish and get a general idea of who he is. I am not seeking Taoist priesthood at this point, but he does offer that from my understanding.
  21. Become Taoist Priest?

    What do you mean by this?
  22. A very great share, thank you for doing so. Look forward to more posting of the interview.
  23. Psychological Suicide

    I agree, Deci. #20 Give up learning, and put an end to your troubles. Is there a difference between yes and no? Is there a difference between good and evil? Must I fear what others fear? What nonsense! Other people are contented, enjoying the sacrificial feast of the ox. In spring some go to the park, and climb the terrace, But I alone am drifting, not knowing where I am. Like a newborn babe before it learns to smile, I am alone, without a place to go. Others have more than they need, but I alone have nothing. I am a fool. Oh, yes! I am confused. Others are clear and bright, But I alone am dim and weak. Others are sharp and clever, But I alone am dull and stupid. Oh, I drift like the waves of the sea, Without direction, like the restless wind. Everyone else is busy, But I alone am aimless and depressed. I am different. I am nourished by the great mother. This to me is a lamentation regarding the process of saying good bye to one's learned personality as well as the possible responses from other people towards someone walking a different path than the collective. (Translation from Gia Fu-Feng and Jane English)
  24. Psychological Suicide

    Deci brought up "The Mysterious Female" in another thread... Tao Te Ching #20 is a good description of what you speak of, to me at least. I treat this synonymously with "Great Mother", Deci can correct me if she has a different perception. To Basher, I tend to recognize "time" as being infinite snapshots of the "Tao" manifesting reality, like a strobe light. In this view, the slate is seemingly always clean, yet our memories seem to not allow that to be so. It is just a factor of remembering such "beginnings", which to a conscious and capable ego can appear to be psychological suicide. Maintaining that memory within a temporal setting is the "challenge". Just what I have come to realize, fwiw.