chris2011

No I haven't actually. I figured if it was public knowledge I could find out. It doesn't seem to be and I am not trying to dig into someones personal life directly. While I don't feel its inappropriate to research public info, I do think its inappropriate and disrespectful to contact people you don't know about things as personal as a previous marriage. I think at this point its a dead issue. Good luck to everyone here, I apologize if I brought up on old issue as far as this forum is concerned. Peace

Okay sorry its taken time to clarify. My main concern ultimately is HIS character. (Not his wife since I am not examining her techniques/practices for adoption. I do believe in the general principles and concepts. My concern is if his character is very questionable that this has most likely tainted his writings and thus gives rise to the possibility that so many people have had troubling results with his practices and techniques. Remember by definition essentially practices and techniques are simply instruments to get to the principle, the understanding, the experience - whatever you may wish to call it. If these practices or techniques are flawed, abhorrent, or have deviant energies etc. Its very unlikely that they will lead to higher states of shared sexuality/relationship/consciousness/peace/enlightenment. Whatever the personal goal may be. If I could perhaps ask this being that you have had personal experience with him. Would you trust him with a very deep secret, your bank account and kids? If not that is why I would want to search out the original manuscripts detailing the practices. Because someone that is not trustworthy I would not feel comfortable that they translated said practices techniques with honesty and or clarity because of their dishonesty. Of course in reality I cannot know that the original author had integrity - particularly if they lived centuries or millenia ago. But I can choose not to adopt techniques and practices of someone KNOWN to be lacking in character. And this is where the intuitive sense of a "red flag" feeling becomes important to me personally. Please understand I didn't come in here with an "insiders" understanding of previous attacks here on this guy. I just heard of him a week ago. I am just the type of person to ask questions though. As for asking questions here. The "master" I know or whatever you want to call him isn't Taoist and doesn't comment on or give advice on areas of life he is unfamiliar with so long as he doesn't see an implicit danger or failure path that seems highly likely to occur. He was exposed primarily in Native American and Aboriginal mysticism. Effectively he is Taoist in a sense, though, by nature of his interactions in the world. He doesn't call himself or identify with anything in particular - just says he is a "free man". I guess you could say his mastery is in his way of existing in the world. Married happily for almost 70 years, respected and called grandpa by almost everyone family and local community and his life is the testament itself to his level of consciousness and virtue - certainly not in knowing every esoteric text or practice. But he encourages me to investigate what I will. The one thing he says he knows for sure is that ones path will NOT work for another, so all we can do is investigate and borrow clues while we are here, and if I'm serious ultimately it will cost me my life. (In death eventually literally but more to the point also in the seriousness of dedication while I'm here day to day) I mean we all do in one way or another so don't misconstrue this to be meant in some extreme sense. Just that its seriousness with perseverance and dedication in practice and also in observing the subtle energies and signs in your body. Point being regardless of what he calls himself or I call myself I think their are many wonderful universal truths that are conveyed through Taoism. Discerning which elements within Taoism seem to be most healthy and appropriate is just me trying to use some common and intuitive sense. As for my experience with meditation it is limited to meditation without technique. I lived in a Zen commune of sorts for about a year at the end of the 90's and when it comes to meditation have never much liked technique and was surprised at how much even Zen had as it actually seems to interfere and not allow me to get to a deeper and lasting experience that I can carry through the day. The sensei there thought it was because I have always been okay to sit quietly by myself and so may have involuntarily learned to meditate from a young age. However. This is not to say that experience with meditation of this nature has resolved all of my understandings about energy how I can work work with it in my life. So to me I see these as more energy excercises and practices - much the same as doing pushups or squats to build capacity in a given area, as opposed to meditation. I want to be able to share this sexual energy on a deeper level with a woman and for this think that certain techniques or practices may prove helpful. I am not looking at this as a path to enlightenment, just to share something deeper with a woman whom I love. At any rate we may just explore on our own at this point. The concept of sex energy being for a higher purpose is not new to either of us and we have both been experimenting for a decade or more with it... You learn a thing or two from your own experience as well. Regards

Sorry don't know why it posted twice. I do hope that you realize as I mentioned he may be another guide light in my search for original manuscripts. But his ideas are in truth far from new in the west. Read Napolean Hill's "think and grow rich" for example. An extremely well known and popular book in America. Although it does not describe methods and practices it acknowledges that many men find this power and use it wisely. It is not some experience owned exclusively by Taoist masters. Sometimes this dude sounds like Rhonda Byrne and (I am still reading it with great interest) So I apologize I am not a typical forum goer - "trolling" if you mean trying to stir shit up? No. I apologize though that initial post was after googling him and then eventually everytime I get to nitty gritty ots blocked (like the link to a post in your forum that comes up in google.) Look all this aside sorry if I came of wrong but I'm interested in the TRUE details not lofty idealism etc. Someone may be a guidelight to find the original manuscripts but if they have not mastered what they teach I do not want to take them as a role model except for perhaps in the failure paths they exhibit within their given discipline. I believe most would agree what not to do can at times be equally or more important as what to do. I did not mean to imply the philosophies he subscribes to are failures or incomplete by any means. I think many of them, upon reflection on oneself, are self evident truths. Anyway I do apologize I wasn't trying to piss anyone off. Peace

Respectfully, If you could post a link to the topics discussing my specific questions it would be appreciated. How old I am, where I am from, and what I practice is not relevant as I am not interested in proving myself to people I don't know on a forum. My intent is to do my own due diligence before blindly accepting a "master's" philosophies and putting them into practice. Thus someone who claims to be a master (currently "grand master" according to his website) IS NOT by definition susceptible to we other mere earthlings flaws. I know a master who wishes to remain anonymous and they have transcended these issues a long time ago - this being the characteristic that separates a Sage from the rest of us. Furthermore this master has told me to quit being irresponsible do my research, if seemingly appropriate at this point put into action the practice to see what benefit there is in my own experience. What more is there to say. So that being said 2 simple questions with 2 simple answers. If you want to be a bottle neck to inhibit the flow of fact go ahead. Bottom line is if you can't live what you purport to teach you don't really know how to do it yourself and since you don't have the truly subtle awareness that comes with experience and experience only its just a figment of your imagination no matter how poetic, lofty or articulate your words are. So please with all respect I am simply trying to research a self proclaimed aster who is divorced (fact) to see what weight there is to his theories and philosophies. Someone's character and what they are capable of accomplishing in the long-term with the philosophies they incorporate in their life says much about the usefulness of philosophies. So what I am starting to gather at this point is that for me he may be more of a guide light from which now I can search out older documents that were written by true sages when there were no printing presses, publishers and profit motives. This once again affirms that regardless of the society they originate from I will stick to the classics! Thanks!

Respectfully, If you could post a link to the topics discussing my specific questions it would be appreciated. How old I am, where I am from, and what I practice is not relevant as I a not interested in proving myself to people I don't know on a forum. My intent is to do my own due diligence before blindly accepting a "master's" philosophies and putting them into practice. Thus someone who claims to be a master (currently "grand master" according to his website) IS NOT by definition susceptible to we other mere earthlings flaws. I know a master who wishes to remain anonymous and they have transcended these issues a long time ago - this being the characteristic that separates a Sage from the rest of us. Furthermore this master has told me to quit being irresponsible do my research, if seemingly appropriate at this point put into action the practice to see what benefit there is in my own experience. What more is there to say. So that being said 2 simple questions with 2 simple answers. If you want to be a bottle neck to inhibit the flow of fact go ahead. Bottom line is if you can't live what you purport to teach you don't really know how to do it yourself and since you don't have the truly subtle awareness that comes with experience and experience only its just a figment of your imagination no matter how poetic, lofty or articulate your words are. So please with all respect I am simply trying to research a self proclaimed aster who is divorced (fact) to see what weight there is to his theories and philosophies. Someone's character and what they are capable of accomplishing in the long-term with the philosophies they incorporate in their life says much about the usefulness of philosophies. So what I am starting to gather at this point is that for me he may be more of a guide light from which now I can search out older documents that were written by true sages when there were no printing presses, publishers and profit motives. This once again affirms that regardless of the society they originate from I will stick to the classics! Thanks!

Actually not clear at all. Super immature and dodging of you. Why you respond if you have nothing relevant to say? Anybody with a real answer to the obviously uncomfortable nerve I hit.. Could it be?

Just wondering if anyone knows why he was divorced and why there is a topic in this forum that questions ore or less "what does Mantak Chia have to say about threesomes considering.." Something along those lines.. At any rate I was recently given a book the "cultivating male sexual energy" and am wondering why he is a failure in marriage - sorry to be blunt but I won't be coy. To be fair and clear - I'm not asking whether his theories are in-accurate, accurate, functional, dysfunctional, partial or complete. I'm asking simply if anyone knows why he got divorced and why there is a blocked post on him. Just wondering essentially if this dude did the flip he describes in his book of New Ages gurus, got freaky on his wife, had a 3some (or some other issue she wasn't cool with) and got a divorce passing it off as spiritual evolution. Granted I'm putting lose things Im gathering through google on him so no disrespect meant here but.. Honestly some of it seems to be common sense if you've paid attention to your body at all, some of it seems insightful and some of it seems ridiculous. Anyway more interested here initially to here about him and this divorce if anyone knows, then from there will see what I think of his ideas (original stolen or borrowed what have you) Thanks! C