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On the Topic of Alchemical Herbs The immortal herbs have been recorded and consecrated by Immortals, but they remain elusive largely because people lack rightful understanding of the teachings. Furthermore, they would apply to only a rare few. And, those that know it, are not likely to speak of it in great detail. There are many reasons for this but it doesn't come down to economy, it has to do with sanctity. Sanctity is safety and this is something that the Immortals esteem. I will say this. For the most part the herbs are not obscure and they have been classified and clarified, so it is not necessarily difficult to study nor to obtain. But the true know-how isn't through the possession of knowledge- it is a present awareness rooted in wisdom. Wisdom is the value of simplicity dynamically applied to complexities realized from the Heart (心 xīn). So in this case, the application is simple in that they relate back to foundational teachings, but also complex in that the application must be consistent, magnified and very very nuanced. Most importantly, one must know themselves in extraordinary ways, not just know herbology or the body. Furthermore, while herbs are indeed material at one level and contribute to the medicine, the true medicine is always in the elixir of Consciousness. Therefore, completion of Golden Seed, immortal transmission, and thus the development of profound awareness both of the Buddhas/Immortals and self as One, are necessary foundations to both proper instruction and application. The Heavenly Mother and the Great Supreme Elder have been tremendous teachers of the immortal way and continue to transmit their wisdom as compassion to the earth. Without this foundation of wisdom and insight, knowledge of these matters are at worst sickening if not dire, and at best healing if not clarifying for one's spiritual nature. For those who are at such a stage of capacity in discovering this post, let me say this. Your body is only as material as your consciousness permits. Therefore, the herbs only work in immaterial ways when you realize your immaterial nature: this is how immortality works. The alchemy is in the shen and in the applied living of Shen Dao first and foremost. At heart, herbs are the affirmation of the formless within the form and not the other way around, as many a mundane person would believe. One of the great keys is purification through refined Consciousness: just as you did with mind and spirit through the process documented in the Golden Flower, now you must set up the same foundations in form. If the yin within is too dense, the ingestion will remain yin and work largely only as yin qi (and the herbs that specifically promote yang qi will be compromised); hence the immortal teachings are rooted in an integrious core of internal yang shen. And you will notice that ordinary people who ingest high level herbs, do so with greed and desire, becoming only more dense in yin over time in both form and spirit. In observing balance, do not fixate on the state, but become aware of how to understand the flux point. In my own experience for instance, one of these is in observing the flicker of shen qi both on my skin and its processes of transformation within my body. Long ago, this initially began as the ability to notice the mechanisms of health and painlessness while in the discomforts of illness- this is how healing can happen simply through awarness and meditation. Now, when I go to apply herbs, I am measuring resonance of yuan qi not necesarily just medical or medicinal dosage of a substance. I offer this little bit of insight to help guide the understanding that youth as health, aging and dying isn't a static state and the belief and experience of it as so only comes from a static mind. A static mind is a static spirit and this leads to blunt observation. The level of observation requisite for immortal herbs cannot be blunt and self-ignorant. So for most students, my suggestion is that the very best you can do to begin with, is to learn and learn deeply about herbology the many levels of the body. This also so means you will need to study deeply about health. Then be practical and sincere- go deep, apply it fully and live a full life. A full life is not one where you spill and expend, but one where you conserve and build- otherwise, how can you be full when you live in loss? Then through meditation and the development of self awareness, you will have the laid an important foundation to work with the herbs in more refined ways, if not someday mystical and magical ways. 'Mystical and magical' doesn't mean harboring romantic delusion about the natural world, it means realizing the creation of forms from intimate awareness of the formless. Otherwise, plants, minerals and more will only remain as food and medicine. Elixirs only become Elixirs when we understand form from the wisdom of the formless. For those who feel it is an injustice for it not be more widely proclaimed, who feel it is dubious or are angry and feel they are justified to know lots of specifics; it reinforces the importance of maintaining sanctity. For when these expressions of unconsciousness are mixed with sanctity, it is in essence the seed and act of corruption. For this knowledge to remain precious, it must be conveyed as well as received with care. I also want to remind people that the Immortals all wish they could reveal more to benefit all, but as the Buddha said, no one can give another person Consciousness, not even the Buddha themself. This doesn't mean that teachers should not teach, but it does mean that teachers need not teach about concepts so much as be a conduit for transmission of the Tao. And this means that students need to not get lost in the map that is instruction but remain honest in developing the natural truth in goodness of nature (zhēn xìng) within themselves. So, I urge everyone to set up the foundation I have mentioned above- there is a wealth- canons of medical knowledge. Don't mistake the outter most of modern establishment for the inner most of the profound teachings: all of the Taoist system is held by the greatest of souls as wisdom that any and all may return to Source. If you set up the foundation and live it well and come back to read some of the key points above or in any immortal writing, it will be the light along the path that only Awareness can radiate. Like any liberation, the answer is not found in the forms even when there is form, but found when we realize the formlessness as the creative Source to all form.
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The Value of Encountering Life's Challenges Along the Spiritual Path
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This was originally written in reply to a post within a thread that I cannot find, so I am posting this here as a stand alone piece because it addresses an important spiritual question that many seekers wonder about, namely the nature of challenges in life and its place in spirituality... why do they happen what can we do about it Often, the challenges we face in life- from small to great, can also become some of the most precious gifts in our personal growth and development. This insight with intention and rightful effort to learn, grow and transform is integral to the self-refinement of the spirit (shen)! As with and integral to the nature of karma, the challenges exist because of conditions yet unresolved within ourselves. When we can realize this with appreciation for the reflection and opportunity that it is to cultivate our person and spirit, then we can take responsibility for the way we shape the conditions of our path. When this resolve is strong, it effects the present and changes the future. When this resolve is deep, it transforms our past and thus becomes the erasure of karma through the reversal of cycles (a deep principle within the spiritual movement of the wu xing). With wisdom, this will become the way in which you become Conscious and thus capable of co-creating destiny (ming). It is not to say that challenge and struggle are not without pain- (sometimes tremendous and immense, if not terrifying) or that there is pleasure in such hardships itself, per se. But with insight and compassion about the nature of self-responsibility to refine and become, it blooms the wisdom of strength in humility and grace. The path to Consciousness is through self-realization and in this there is no blame toward others, situations or necessarily even ourselves. Rather, there is continuous recognition that no one can take responsibility for our own given body/form (the po), our own soul (hun shen), and thus our own path (tao) nor our own destiny (ming), but yourself. And as frightening, vulnerable and small as the unconsciousness that is our own karmic pain may sometimes feel, look for the strength in compassion and humility, for these qualities are what imbue us with the radiance and grace to carry forth- they are the radiance of Consciousness; so that the unconsciousness that is burden and previous ignorance will be diminished and through rightful perseverance, entirely overcome. And yes, it is possible to entirely overcome the things you thought would haunt you and hurt you forever... those things which seemed impossible to resolve. For they were once the creation of unconsciousness, but in the light of Consciousness there is only the unifying light of clarity that is True Nature (xing) and this is Peace. This is one of the great processes that everyone goes through as they tend to the elixir and cleanse themselves of all karmic ailments. Because challenging moments and conditions are a necessary aspect of valuable opportunity, it is beneficial not bring more unconsicousness to the unconsciousness that is already contained within these hardships by laying more waste (ie. blame, shame, guilt, hatred, anger); to do so only causes entrenchment and has potential to deepen the hole and prolong the reptitive cycle of experience. The more we resist the opportunity for responsible, integrious and compassionate action, then the more we will continue to experience more of the same hardships or worse. This is not punishment or even the judgement of blame necessarily, rather- and more importantly, it is the principle of unlearned opportunity that is karma, that is the puzzle you own in this lifetime to unravel. In a way, I suggest- especially for those prone to guilt and shame, to not feel so identified or personal about the pain - either as a mark of shame or badged mission to overcome- in short don't attach your pride positively or negatively to challenges or pain. Yet proceed with all the responsbility and devotion, with sincereity and inner strength to take care of what you have been given and presented, for this pain and these challenges are as much your own as they are part of collective. As the Buddha taught, a true teacher- a truly great one, is one who helps you to see yourself- this is not only true of a Great Teacher, but can also be true of the powerful reflections within your own life if you allow it to be. But too often people spend time hating the source that offers the reflection- not realizing that when they hate, blame and react to that source, when they treat their own life and the life of others carelessly and unconsciously; then they only bring more harm upon themselves and thus prolong their own hardships and the collective pain. I can tell you, it is not uncommon that many of the persons who come into Consciousness suffered horrendous traumas. But it is in part because of the depth of their sincerity and willingness to really know the truth within themselves and to care for this Truth with all the resolve that they knew possible that they were gifted with the Golden Seed*; these are the actions of a virtuous being and they integral to the direct process of developing the elixir- to reverse the cycle of experience that is karma and resolve back into pure Unity through refinement of profound insight. So often people deem this process mystical, but it is no more miraculous than practical; it is no more the movement of Tao as it is the stillness of the maturity you find within. Just as grasping and greed for pleasure becomes the bondage of unconsciousness, insight and grace in pain can become liberation in consciousness. Therefore, don't assume the nature of conditions based on the the quality of ease in self-ignorance. Unity contains all things, so learn how to be rightfully in relation to all things. Do not separate the pain from pleasure, but do learn to distinguish rightful stillness and action through the mirage of condition. So I urge you to remember, that challenges are reflections of what is still yet to be learned: unconsciousness waiting to be revealed and resolved through (your) Consciousness. When we blame, despise, resent or indulge the painfulness of these reflections, then we squander the opportunity to refine the spirit and this in turn prolongs the cycle. If instead we can use the energy (qi) we have to transform our consciousness (shen) then we can transmute the potential (jing) into what is true and pure (the yuan). This how you take care of The (three great) Treasures you've been given. Take responsibility for your own Liberation, for your soul is a worthy essence in need and benefit of all the beauty of effort that you can give it! ----- *The Golden Seed is comprised of many components or aspects of spirit in Unity (the 'little shens' and the Great shen). These are not the energies of some kind of post-natal qi (as many would mistakenly believe) but rather of refined shen qi- meaning they are the energies of a purified spirit, that in greater resolved Unity becomes part of the Yuan Shen. Just as Conscious Unity contains the harmony of darkness and light, so too must you discover how to be in harmony amidst the waves; every stroke of moonlight no different than the light of sun- let the weather of nature be your teacher, let yourself be a great student and observer to the life within yourself; to not fear to uncover, discover and adventure across your own ravines and mountains; for somewhere in its inner depths lies the Mysterious Passage- a dimension without place, an entry without lock, a recognition of the true self within the Great Tao Yin.- 4 replies
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Love, Loving-Kindness, Bonds, Attachment
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i've heard testicles atrophy in the last stages of internal alchemy practice. why is that? is that healthy?
Small Fur replied to Centli's topic in General Discussion
Original Poster's Topic Question: "I've heard testicles atrophy in the last stages of internal alchemy practice. Why is that? Is that healthy?" Cultivation's Effect on the Testes When a person does not cultivate or their practice is incorrect (for instance, the jing is already considered 'still' in the sense that though the taiji of the kidneys manifest as dichotomous they are still foundationally considered a yin source, so if one 'stills' them in the sense you are speaking of then they are basically creating stagnation. What instead needs to happen is not wasting. By this I mean specifically conservation- not collecting, condensing or other methods which refer to different aspects of conservation but are not in and of themselves the actual practice of living conservation), atrophy (degeneration) of the testes may happen and this will in turn lead to feebleness across various other organ systems, most notably as deficiency symptoms of spleen qi and/or xue (blood), but the implications are not isolated solely to these patterns of disharmony and depend on many other interrelated factors (so please don't self-diagnosis or jump to conclusions). Conversely, the testicles returning to a more condensed size in a firm and full state (such as in youth) is a product not stemming from loss of substance but rather clarification and rejuvenation of *1 transforming one's existing substance. Health at this level comes through the following written below and is integral to the answer of the next question.. Additional Conversation Question: "What happens if someone achieves this before getting old? " Shen is the source of why forms are as they are When shen is perfected through stillness in wuji, the yin jing will transform in its substance from this perfected stillness and the yang jing will become pure in its active radiance; thus they return to the yuan state as part of vital essence. It is in this way that Earthly Immortality can be made possible. The source of how this happens doesn't really originate in jing or *2xue itself, per se, but from shen first and foremost. So the cultivation of Consciousness is essential for the resilience of jing. Therefore, those that focus exclusively or obsessively on jing do so because they are concerned with forms and are moved out of willful (willfulness is the nature of the zhi shen) desire to hoard from the essence of things; it is a very base and coarse (unrefined) motivation born from the unconsciousness of desperation and greed. These fears and the avarice for power are a life driven by the motivations of the root chakra, of which many people have the hardest time refining because it is the yin of the lower (subtle) body system. (Note: this quality of focus and desire in people is dangerous. This is why the Buddha taught about non-desire, the Immortals about sung and wei wu wei which together allows for the peace of non-striving, and both speak of the virtue of selfless and therefore, no greed- incuding for one's own life, other's possession or the materiality of forms (forms which are ultimately dreams of the maya). Conversely, it is the ability to resolve desire as we cultivate the form to return to the yuan (original). In time the celestial polarities (the ji 极) of our greater system will perceive the wuji (the Ultimateness or Limitless Pole) to transform and potentiate yuan jing and purified xue (blood) in concert with heavenly wisdom (the ji of the blue star). This in turn allows the aging process to be greatly slowed or to reverse- the differences between the two being: 1) the existing health conditions the cultivator bears at the time the light from stillness is made apparent and how long they can remain in such true Presence (note that 'age' in regards to physiological transmutation is very pertinent to the results of longevity, as people who cultivate too late in life are unlikely to become Earth Immortals in part because there is not enough pre- and post- natal substance to work with. I refer to this aspect in a pervious post about the energetic processes of refinement as 'it takes energy to make energy' which is why it is so important to take care of health and wellbeing as each moment, and in this case, doing so by not clinging to ideas of jing: this only lead to more waste). 2) the level of self-cultivated depth/spiritual maturity and insight the practitioner has about the nature of stillness (there are gradations of stillness/emptiness that can be perceived by the hun shen) 3) level of medical knowledge or training and guidance they receive by other medically trained practitioners- particularly, of course, other Earthly Immortals or Celestial Immortals (but it isn't necessarily exclusive to them only- always who we are depends on ourselves and our own ability for rightful perception and rightful knowing foundationally) Additional Conversation Question: "How is such an immortal to be detected?" We know because our own heart's and minds are clear with the heart-felt light of self-awareness The simple answer is that by being in touch with our own spirit, we are better able to witness the spirit of others; these immortal and other ascendant qualities are sensed through the clarity and development of an open heart on the part of the perceiver (as Lao Tzu said, 'how do they know such righteousness? they can feel it'). The deeper the clarity of the open heart by the perceiver, the greater their own purity in sacredness, and the more like recognizes like unconditionally while also acknowledging the manifestation of condition... conditions of form both gross and subtle which are part of the sacred knowledge. *1 There is similar misunderstanding about the role of menses and the beheading of the Red Dragon in women's cultivation. So care needs to taken to not conflate principals of reversal for signs that are actually of aging, illness and death. *2 Pertaining to women's cultivation -
The Immaterial Concept of Perfection The confounding issue has to do with the intellectual focus on parsing semantics when the True state cannot be intellectually derived and thus the focus is without a 'thing'- meaning, it is Empty. So intellectual argument is ultimately, in this case, a false argument, even if it seems logically true given contexts and dependencies. As "thusness" is without name, without object, without even experience in and of itself, there can be no true mental argument that is based on givens or variations regardless of whether one 'believes' it to be true or not true. Thus, belief here is also another unhelpful form of ideological approach. What then causes 'new age wishfulness' but an abundance of beliefs, hopes and dreams, obscuring clarity through ungrounded perceptions? Just because humans are prone to wishfulness and skepticism, trust and doubt, doesn't diminish what is of actual spiritual essence and ultimately beyond essence and the existential (yes! there is 'something' beyond the existential!). We have an entire universe of lost souls but the Tao remains... perfect- more on that later. So, what is inherently Essential and True does not need anyone's belief yet is benefited and gives benefit to all that sense it within themselves and care to move forth from that integrity of purity within in all moments. It is the case that the nature of the lost human is lost because that pure sense (the yuan- original light) has been cleaved and fragmented, squandered and compartmentalized; and thus people even feel the need to say such things as 'I believe in love', 'I believe in kindness' and cannot fully comprehend the grace and generosity that is the profound simplicity of love and kindness. This form of unawareness is directly proportional to the fact that many people are not entirely certain about whether they have a soul or a spirit- this essence of themselves that is the shen (spirit, light, awareness) that creates everything that they actually are! Thus in not knowing the spirit of self, they do not know the spirit of other, and in not sincerely caring enough for either, they cannot perceive the mother Tao. Not knowing (including not knowing if there is perfection) is a valuable part of being able to accept mystery, learning to work with the unknown, and ultimately understanding what is contained in Silence. This takes as much courage as it does humility. Live from what you sense to be the highest goodness within, and allow the mysteries to unveil themselves as they do, if they do- seeking to understand with grace whatever is presented- whether you like it or not, or want it or not; go deeper than your expectations and desires. Go deeper than believing and knowing, doubtfulness and skepticism. So then what is it this 'perfection' that we are examining? The reason it is confusing is because people's ideas of perfection are mundanely derived just as their disappointments about the lack thereof. The kind of spiritual perfection that is alluded to by the Perfected Ones is not of mundane conditioning even though it encompasses the mundane. To put simply, once you arrive at the enlightened understanding, you realize the enlightenment that passes through all things, you see the shen (spirit) in all things, and you experience the being(s) as the immortal Buddha. You understand the integral relationship of dualities as a unity of all things in which there is no longer, ultimately even oneness. This unity (the one) that is no longer dual (the two: yin and yang) is the conjoining of dharma and anti-dharma not as polarities of tension, but now as a perfection of harmony (the Taiji). This is the Consciousness of the shen dao (consciousness of the Tao itself from Wuji) by recognition of the one whose consciousness has reunited with the Original (yuan shen). In time when you come into full enlightenment, you will realize that in Emptiness there is no thing that can be named, as there is neither dharma nor anti-dharma and by this same token it is how dharma and anti-dharma also exist. This perfected consciousness in understanding is why we realize dharma itself is immaterial: because it is merely a concept. Yet an invaluable concept nonetheless, and one that we must embrace with our hearts, if our minds (shen as mind-spirit) are to be Liberated of all things- including this concept from within the maya. https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/55095-everything-is-perfect/
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Love, Loving-Kindness, Bonds, Attachment
Small Fur replied to TranquilTurmoil's topic in Buddhist Discussion
[This reply was posted without having read the article link] In order to really understand the answer to this question, you must first understand the True Nature of love. Love is not an object, nor is it bound to forms. It has no dependencies, no entanglements and ultimately no inter-relationships: thus, it is not a state of attachment. This is how love is itself unconditional. Once you attach it to things or conditions- including yourself and others, you trivialize it and divest it from its essence. Yet even though this is so, to come into enlightened understanding of this, you must begin with the cultivation of a deep regard and care for all things (metta), until you can understand the Nothing in all the 'somethings'. This love which we can illuminate all things is not found in the conditions of empathy; instead it is a recognition in a very deep wisdom that results in profound compassion. Such a deep compassion comes from not only wisdom and knowledge of the transcendent, but also from insight born of great humility that begins firstly through a process of self-recognition and understanding. This self-realization when profound leads beyond the self, and when that entity of self is dissolved it is through that that you recognize the transcendent universal or the Original, and eventually also the Emptiness. These conditions and the actions born from them cannot be prematurely or naively contrived in yourself through mere willingness and arbitrary decision because they are not a process of ordinary mind, emotion or unconscious spirit. This is also why love itself cannot be ordinary, and when it is True and deep, it is extraordinary and transcendent, and thus from that state it is also selfless and compassionate. When you objectify love by projecting onto illusions (maya) and engross your emotions in empathy through a process of attachment you create entanglement within the stream of unconsciousness that is integral to the perpetuation (karma and thus also the commonplace place movement of the wu xing) of unconsciousness in people. It is not that you cannot have insight and recognition of other's pain and suffering- which is one aspect of empathy, but to take on their suffering or psyche as your own (which is a hallmark of empathy), is to subsume yourself in the unconsciousness resonance. To begin to dissolve these attachments while remaining in the integrity of what is inherent and rightful, what is essential and truly good, helps you develop a clear spirit that acts from and lives from the essence of rightfulness- untangling the wounds and confusions: the sufferings of karma. This then, is the foundation of enlightened place from which a true compassion is born, from which love can emanate and illuminate without the desire, the 'burn', the confusion of self and other, and the tumultum that you speak of. Similarly, love which feels weak or strong, more or less, is a love divested of Source- of Nirvana, and diminuates it to thing, which is why it becomes quantity. When you hold it essential, it bears quality and its depth of quality is in direct relation to your own cultivated depth of nature, mind and heart. How then can you become as love itself as the Buddha had? Like the Buddha or an Immortal Sage, all people must go through a process of laying a foundation. These foundations are discussed in different ways, using different language according to time, space, and context (these include the language and perspective of language that are a part of the orientation of a collective awareness of a time. Therefore, True teachings of any time should not be trivialized into intellectual debate but instead recognized, felt and lived in their essence*) of a true teacher; but if you can see it from the perspective of enlightenment (and not in the pettiness of an ordinary discriminating mind that gets mired in social politics of seemingly competing theories) then you understand that the Eight-Fold Path (Eight-Fold Path consists of eight practices: right view, right resolve, right speech, right conduct, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness) like the 5 Virtues in Taoism (Integration of the spirits in: benevolence, wisdom, propriety, righteousness, and integrity which are also essences of how we conduct and unify our energy) are essentially one in the same though seemingly diverse (in the maya) of their method: that is that we must foundationally use the energy of this life, this body and the conditions of our existence to become truly good people, people worthy of enlightenment ('worth' here is not so much about deservence and therefore also undeservence, but rather meant as the alignment of our own true integrity in true value). This essential worth is in all of us to manifest regardless of form and condition. And this in turn requires the cultivation of our lives in health of mind, body, spirit and relationships to all things, as well as (self) insight to develop the rightfulness in all action and eventually in all Being. So for all those- Taoist, Buddhist or none at all, if your care is to be in truth and resolve the conditions of suffering, then you must give care to all things and all processes from it's essence, not because of what it is or how it seems but simply because you yourself find the value in and feel the beauty of loving-kindness inherently in yourself, free of attachment and yet inherent as part of life in its illusions and also eventually, free of it's illusions. To love so truly and deeply we must move beyond the notion of loving things by purifying ourselves of things and our fixations upon them (ie. forms- political, social, indentifications, the intellectual concept, the personal- all constructs and projections- the xi shen which is acquired consciousness that creates imbalance, factions and existential falsity) even as we apply it to things (eg. this body, our health, living, relating) so that when you touch all things, even in their illusions of form (and your own), you can help dissolve it, resolve it, and bring it back to Emptiness. (*The more Conscious you are, the more you realize the Truthfulness in the enlightened teachings regardless of circumstantial presentation and not waste yourself on argument and but instead apply yourself with sincerity and diligence to living rightfully as best as you know how in each present moment. So, do not debate amongst yourself and argue against your teacher for intellectual-ego superiority, you can instead find the self-humility, deepest care and sincere receptivity to ask the questions to sages and also of your highest self- what it is that you need to do, be, learn and understand in order to live and be a more profoundly good human being. You have to care about truly understanding- experiencing it fully through sense and heart-mind, and not conflate this with the desire to know and obtain knowing of things which are the workings of a ordinarily high-mind and super-ordinary ego. This question and sincere understanding requires the deepest self-examination, and in this a fearlessness to be utterly truthful with yourself... a form of utter revelation in a transparency of self amongst the sacred, and is best done not only in self-contemplation when necessary, but also in silence and through learning progressively deeper forms of empty meditation.) -
Neidan, Dan Dao, Golden Elixir, Jade Pill, Neigong, Qigong - Which is right? Which is wrong?
Small Fur replied to Iskote's topic in Daoist Discussion
To be clear and honest, I will just say that these (re: "Neidan, Dan Dao, Golden Elixir, Jade Pill, Neigong, Qigong - Which is right? Which is wrong?" ) are all different inter-related aspects of one's practical health, the personal path in cultivation, and the deepening of awareness along the spectrum towards a perfected Consciousness (here I use the term 'Perfected' as part of the Buddhist realization of enlightenment- which in the inner teachings includes the 'physical' in addition to the 'spiritual'); and that to realize each in their discrete value as part of a total formation to an entire path is of profound benefit. Therefore, it is best not to speak of them so casually as to be confounded lest the essence of their practical and immortal worth be lost to the one who misperceives and spreads that misperception to others. The rightfulness of any experience or condition (this includes our choices and pratices) lies in the origin of our character (de 德 - virtue) as Consciousness in wisdom, because it is through this that the power of destinies are made and reborn (either as karma, or as the golden embryo). Therefore, the more pure your nature and insight, then the greater the alignment of your own spirit as Dao, and as such the more clarity and goodness from which you will sense, perceive, do and be. Therefore, it is less to do with method or conditions even if our processes contain methods and are resultant in conditions. The state beyond debate, beyond question, and therefore beyond answer can be discovered by looking within. And although those who come to know this are indeed very rare, this does not mean that it is not readily available to be recognized within all of us free of time: it is always in this eternal transpiring moment known as Now. Enlightenment is in part the ability to recognize omnipresence from a place of total freedom. Therefore, this recognition does not depend on time, it does not depend upon opinions, and it is transcendent of all notions of authority- including of the personal and what many often imagine to be the ultimate things. This is because when you are the same the Emptiness from which all Source becomes, then 'you' are beyond all condition of naming and measure.* How then do we live if the true ultimate being is beyond opinion, beyond beliefs and values? It is to let go of notion, to release the noise and business that clouds the senses and instead to dwell in the sacred. The sacred is accessed through silence, hidden within emptiness, and made visible by light (shen). *Therefore, a true teacher does not teach you things, but shows you yourself and those who are afraid to look inward will instead always seek 'things' outward- things to do, things to try, things to adhere to, things to become- the lesser teaching and learning is always about the rules. This also means, a person who walks the true path is one who is ready to look within, with courage and diligence to transform themselves with great care and respect to the rules, but not because of the rules. This form of transmission and transformation is inspired by the Yuan (Original) and that is why within truthful people you find the manifestation of enlightened harmony as the natural beauty of wei wu wei (effortless action).- 41 replies
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"Breathing in, I am aware of my heart. Breathing out, I smile to my heart and know that my heart still functions normally. I feel grateful for my heart." -Thích Nhất Hạnh Dear Tao Bums, Students and Practitioners of Buddhism, Please take a moment in silent light and benevolence to offer grace and blessing to thây Thích Nhất Hạnh who passed away on January 22nd, 2022 at Từ Hiếu Temple in Huế, Vietnam. Thây Hạnh was the teacher of Thiền Buddhism- a Vietnamese form of Zen Buddhism, author of 130 books and founder of both Deer Park and Plum Village Monasteries. Among his many writings, were "The Miracle of Mindfulness", "Anger: Wisdom for Cooling the Flames", and "Peace is Every Step". Record of his funeral procession in Vietnam, his final parting words of merit and wish for the compassionate community to continue the cultivation of bodhicitta can be seen here: His dedication, teachings and compassion have touched many lives. May we offer our gratitude and blessing not only in our hearts and through prayer, but also in action through our continued living dedication in heartfelt cultivation, practice and compassion. "The real power of the Buddha was that he had so much love. He saw people trapped in their notions of small separate self, feeling guilty or proud of that self, and he offered revolutionary teachings that resounded like a lion's roar, like a great rising tide, helping people to wake up and break free from the prison of ignorance" -Thích Nhất Hạnh May we all love, love deeply, and love truly.
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Is it possible to not fear death, and yet not want to die?
Small Fur replied to Shadao's topic in General Discussion
Following up a bit from my post above... This may seem a bit of a tangent, but to impress upon some points I made and also expound upon a certain amount of specific understanding regarding life, death and the immortal path- especially for those who are diligently traveling or have traveled a little further along in their personally journey... because time is not linear and maya is integral to existence, the persistence of life and death are concurrent while simultaneously real and illusory. One of the easiest ways to understand this is to see it as 'strands' of water melding in and out of each other. Interestingly, this is also the literal movement of fate as experienced by the Immortals and enlightened beings and it is possible to witness this directly in each moment of profound awareness. So these waves continuously become each other (note that this has many profound implications, so for those who have come into Consciousness, it is a worthwhile sensory contemplation to understand more fully, especially in meditation, prayer and through connection to the xian and in xing dao). In addition, death is a powerful form of transformation. Having lived a basic healthy (or even unhealthy) mortal life, one will still continue through the karmic wheel- so whether you continue as this or that, is in many ways neither here nor there, because they are just persisting reflections of the 'same' spirit in differentiated contexts perpetuating itself in its need for resolve through the stream. However, once the spirit comes back to its original source (yuan shen), the transformation of death will not lead back to the same karmic plane. Meaning, once you become enlightened and have continued sufficient cultivation as is rightful for your person (also meaning that at this point you do not necessarily pick the path or type of practice so much as you recognize and do what is needed for your specific soul/ being- so at this stage, you are not cultivating from any theory of teaching per se, goal or agenda: you are only following the mandate of heaven... this is very beautiful and harmonious experience) then with sufficient fulfillment yet incomplete, you will be free to go on to finish the Immortal Path somewhere other than in this form on this plane. That next phase, will be specifically about the Conscious total resolve (as opposed to the often confused meandering that most people experience as part of the mundane). This transcendent occurrence can of course happen in this life time here on Earth, but if you do not finish it here and have lived diligently and deeply enough in enlightened wisdom (and I am not speaking here of merely Awakening, or some certain momentary and profound recognitions- such as seeing heaven or angels, etc.,. but rather actual enlightenment at deeper levels) then you will have already attained a measure of immortality* sufficient for transcendent forms of cultivation beyond. *as I stated earlier in my post above, Immortality begins first in Consciousness of spirit (shen) and then comes from essence before qi and so eventually it filters into form with continued diligence. Thus, there are different levels of immortality and they coincide with enlightened depth that graduates into forms. -
Is it possible to not fear death, and yet not want to die?
Small Fur replied to Shadao's topic in General Discussion
When in peace you care deeply about life and death while also willing allowing for life and death, then you will be without concern in life and death. In this peaceful willingness and lack, faith and fate (ming) become an expression from True Consciousness (xing dao) moving through you. In an enlightened cultivation, it manifests in Immortality. In the most pure sense, there is no waste in having lived nor died at any point in time. Yet on an ordinary level, we can still make every effort to live as inherently, healthfully and consciously as possible. There is great virtue in one whose being is rightful and in such enlightened resonance, it will Consciously affect all forms of states and passages in existence- life and death being only one very small iteration of the mundane form you know now. (It should also be noted that many people believe they have come to some peace with the idea of death, but this is only intellectual when it is yet that they still have a whole host of other fears in life- fears of each other, fears of living, fears of connection, of suffering, etc,. Therefore, if you examine yourself deeply enough, you will realize, the essence of all fear is the same, and that death is just one of many possible projections but is no different than any other fear yet not overcome. Therefore, when all fear is truly overcome, the spirit will go through the first of many 'little deaths' and begin its process of liberation.) Part of the Immortal path is this ability to recognize and live harmoniously in these other iterations of energy through other dimensions and states in existence and also beyond existence, but this recognition and being cannot be done if we fear or live in attachment to an idea of self (including the idea that we are alive or dead, and the fear or ideas of what it is to suffer). This is why it is important not to be in fear nor attachment to form or else you will not understand the formless: in that lies the misunderstanding of form itself- as form originates from gradations and iterations of formlessness. Immortality is then, fundamentally a state of Consciousness as wisdom whose last most iteration is expressed in form, and form then, is in a sense, Immortality's most trite state even if it represents the whole of a completion. People only marvel at the thought because they think they know form and believe in its concrete apparitations, but they do not understand (nor often care for enough about*) what it is to have a heart and spirit so Truthful and pure as to become Immortal. So Immortality has much more to do with the quality of our shen and it is only through the embodiment of such enlightened sense that the form realizes itself as formless. At a profound level there is no life nor death, only transformation. And at a transcendent level, that transformation resolves in having never having lived nor died and is beyond even eternality, yet in that resolved transformation is the eternal- free of all form and time. *How often is that you see people asking with such great care - how is my heart? how is my spirit? am I truly a good human? what is the quality of my soul? compared to people fretting over their body, their vanity, their longevity and death? If people- yes, even 'Taoists' gave as much care, and put so much energy into their heart and spirit as they did their body, their form would radiate more deeply with that very light more vibrant than any food, herb or physical practice. And in that any food, herb or physical practice they did do would be that much more powerful and transformative because of its goodness in resonant clarity. -
Buddha "Don't worship anything". Buddhists "With folded hands I turn to you". Me "Huh?".
Small Fur replied to Seeking's topic in Buddhist Discussion
You ask other humans who are on a spiritual journey themselves to answer the question to a statement given thousands of years ago, in a specific context, by someone who had fully liberated themselves. It's not necessary to demean the whole of a path or place because someone(s) along the way who have not yet reached the end point themselves, and so do not yet know the resulting answers, cannot answer you right now. Your own sense to (subconsciously) exalt one path or one group of people (in this case Buddhists) over another makes you bristle when they fall short of your expectations in being able to answer your question regarding what it is to, or why we might or might not exalt anything at all. It is ok if we all fall short sometimes in understanding; it is a process for everyone. Everyone is trying in their own way, and the effort in giving reverence is still at the end of the day a more noble use of efforts then to look upon others in condescension. You say you thought it was a 'given' that someone should know something that they try and live by each and every day. Yet how many day to day things have you ever done before one day waking up a decade later, or decades later, or even life times later to realize you had no idea what it was you were actually doing? We have all been through many lifetimes. We can all have peace and acceptance in our own unknowingness and the unknowingness of others. And there can also be peace and acceptance in knowing if you allow it- would you allow it? (or will all answers be chalked up to a cynical heart?) It is valuable to be able to ask your discerning questions from an open heart, especially since it is that you also care about this so much one as to have been vexed by the lack of clarity and seemingly poor reception. First, let me share a bit about my own experience with you. When I was younger and new to the yoga 'scene', I was very surprised how at the end of every practice everyone would stand around together, hands clasped bowing at one another and saying 'namaste'. I was quiet baffled by it and not sure what to think... or do! I didn't know what it meant. Years later, after having gone through a period of awakening, I began teaching and to my own surprise, found myself, hands clasped at the end of sessions and bowing to my students... spontaneously and naturally! Now even much, much further in my own path and in working with students, I continue to do this spontaneously, naturally... and now, also very deeply. Some times I see in my students eyes the sheepish act of following along and not knowing why, sometimes I see in their eyes contrivance and disingenuous return, sometimes I see resistance, or that they are just tolerating this very strange thing I do! Some refuse to do it at all, some look at a loss as to what what I might be doing, some just love it and do it without knowing much why or thinking twice! It's all wonderful. So... First, like any mudra, there is a connection between paths of energies (meridians), energy centers (ie.,. chakras, palms) and a polarity into the heavens and earth from our body (via bai hui and hui yin). When we hold a mudra, we create a connection and circuit into the deeper sources of energies of the universe. This particular mudra creates a circuit of insight between the eyes of the palms (PC8- Lao Gong) from the center of the heart and connects to the core of our bodies (chong mai), acting as an axis to root the heavens into this world in an expression of heart-centered reverence. In xi shen- the human conditioning of ideas, doing this can have all sorts of "meaning", maybe even from an 'unwitting cult of personalities'. But in a human that is pure and clear, whose heart is bright and free, it is easy to feel the reverence, joy and love for life in this gesture. It need not be more or less, it need not be a mind-based idea, nor a passion, nor a theatrical display of unrealized worship. As for worship itself. It is easy when speaking to a group of religious of devotees as Buddha had, to see that many people have lost sight of themselves and even care for a deeper understanding to something else which they do not fully understand or may misunderstand. This process of relinquishing self-awareness, self-understanding, and becoming impassioned by projections, can create delusion. In addition, worship is often part of religious ritual and this adherence to conformity and decorum can also lead people to become mindless. This is what the Buddha means to address. It is not that the veneration of deities, religions or rituals should have to cause this, but nonetheless, many people prefer this process to their own processes and unconsciously choose to allow themselves to become obscured even as they attempt to become aware. So when the Buddha tells us not to let anything- including spiritual processes, become an 'opiate of the masses' he is pointing to this, which is not the same as suggesting that we cannot love, extol or revere from the goodness of our hearts in the most simple of ways. This gesture or any form of love, devotion, reverence or worship are not "just a token"... unless we make it one. And it doesn't have to be an act of subversion, sublimation, ignorance, mindless exalting nor self-diminution ... unless we make it one. Just as making love has certain postures and connection that can exalt us to bliss and to heavenly insight, so can these same acts cause harm, violence and depravity when done without consciousness. Because they are powerful. The wish to give honor, to love, to have reverence, to commit to what we care about and to devote ourselves in those processes that are a part of worship, need not become an act of contrivance, falsity or gesture in mass delusion and they don't need to cause fear. The Buddha taught this mudra and held many other mudras during his meditations in enlightened devotion and commitment to our potential for Liberation. They are all beautiful forms of transmissions, from the universe, to our hands and in to our hearts, so that we may better express the loving-kindness, compassion and acceptance that is the light of essence within us all.- 37 replies
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When the chakra of the crown opens it connects to the heavenly dimensions of the universe, including to the Immortals and celestial energetic bodies of star systems. These are the stars that comprise the Big Dipper and are part of a reunification process with the original template of ourselves, or the soul. The connection to the celestial realms are then transmitted back into the humanly vessel and that energy is sent into a sacred dimension known as the Crystal Palace located behind the third eye, where there are then further refractions and distributions of the energy through our organ and meridian systems. Even though a measure of energy from the heavens is always moving through our field, this level of opening and connection does not happen until after the golden seed is formed and the fragrance of heavenly peach flowers have been snowing for some time during meditation. This might sound like a recognition of the third eye to you and there is relationship to it, but the third eye only allows us to see subtle phenomena, not necessarily to understand or work with it rightly. Because of this, people who have the third eye open are only able to access a certain strata of realms, the nature of which has a lot to do with the health of their subtle systems and karma, and is also why many more people who have psychic experience disassociate, become delusional, sick or are menaced by negative entities... one needs to cultivate the maturity of health, clarity and capacity more completely within themselves in order to really be of and receive benefit from these dimensions of existence. But in general when we are cultivating deeply and sincerely, the arising of any phenomena becomes part of a depth of understanding of self as an ontological process and is not a distraction. So when one is able to move from such place with humility and awareness, then presence leads to wisdom that actually allows for the most fulfilling of mystical knowledge. Thus, the Consciousness of Immortals is not revealed until one has cultivated enough depth in self-Consciousness and character (de- virtue) as to be given such access and connection to divinity or the xian (the immortals). This is partly why if you read through posts of mine I talk about the importance of spiritual connection to golden seed which comes through the cultivation of shen (Consciousness). Form allows us to facilitate non-forms, until it itself can be dissolved into non-form, hence we must cultivate the yuan (original) within ourselves. And although all of this is indeed very deep and mystical, it must begin here: right within our capacity to be in and resolve our own hearts with the way we live and breath everyday.
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One of the Three Clarities: The Embodiment of Lu Xing 祿星 Your question surmises that the spiritual nexus of well-being within a person's life has its basis in money; this is a common perspective around topics of power, because many expressions of life so often seem to coalesce in forms of power and this in turn can provoke both fear and desire in people. This perspective creates a multiplicity of contentions through material and conceptual dichotomies (and more) as you try to fit the infinity of spiritual manifestation into the mundane currency of a single form: money! (but you could replace this word for sex, politics or any other mundane condition where power tends to consolidate and wield itself). If instead, your mundane life springs from the living awareness of spiritual connection to the Source that births all manifestations, then what is necessary to you will appear as is necessary for who you are, at the right time, naturally and in abundance. What you talk about... safety, security, sanctity and health to live a full and deep life, rests more foundationally in prosperity (or foremost a deeper form of essential wealth)- the monetary economics of which are only one means, but for most in this variant of time and place, a very important and often vital one nonetheless. First, if you recognize and understand that the energy (qi- which actually has many forms) of prosperity has inifinite potential in flow, then this will begin to change your concept of how wellness manifests and this will allow you to be more receptive and grateful to its many guises as you discover the abundance of miracle through mundanity. Prosperity is actually one of the three clarities of The Three Taoist Immortals correlated with the celestial bodies and elixir fields of our system, and who are themselves together the embodiment of unified purity when they congregate in the inner heavens (of the universe and your system): Lu Xing- God of Prosperity (including all forms of wealth) Fu Xing- God of Good Fate (including all forms of fortune), Shou Xing-God of Longevity (including all forms of health), (A small aside. I notice in the West that The Three Wise Ones are either not talked about or are seen as caricatures of some kind, but in Southeast Asian cultures they are very much revered: many wines, foods and alters are set up in honor of them. When I was growing up, their names and their values were always mentioned; especially to give blessing on special occasions, to mark the potential greatness in new beginnings, and at Lunar New Year. One of the Chinese herbal shops I often visit has a shrine in honor of Shou Xing to give blessings of health to their patrons). These three deities have had numinous manifestations across life times, achieving immortality with a unique focus of teaching from Emptiness as it leads from formlessness to become form and back again. Clarity in any of these three areas helps with the luminosity of transformation within us. Prosperity is what occurs when the heavens in the (jade and purple) palace of the Three Treasures in our body are Consciously nurtured. Longevity is what happens when the roots of the Three Treasures are Consciously nurtured. And Good Fate/Happiness/Fortune is what happens when the Earth and the Heavens unite at the center (through the heart) of all that we are as ren (human). Notice that in unification they are interdependent, ultimately inter-changeable and together create the potential for the treasures of wellness in our life from our bodies and through our bodies. Remember that that which is Immortal is without desire, hence it is eternal and this applies to all formations of Treasure internal and external (...so don't objectify money and 'things'- lest xi shen, xi shen [acquired consciousness, acquired consciousness]). So prosperity or the wealth of our lives are part of an energetic Consciousness that moves through the universe and into our subtle body systems. Abundance of the Treasures comes from our clarity of access to these energies and (wise) understandings from (the levels of) Emptiness within the universe. Hence, when we become afraid, jealous, resentful, greedy or desireful of these powers, it creates obscurity and distortion, leading to imbalances in health and lifestyle and ultimately, our spirit. So do not struggle with the idea of 'have and have not' and then harmfully fight about it with yourself or with others; this is not clear. Worry less about specific attainments (or loss/lack) of any kind and focus more on what really needs doing within yourself so that prosperity, fate and health can naturally manifest of their own accord from your virtue and as is necessary for your living spirit path. To make this easier to understand and to begin with, consider living each day of your life like this: Make the kinds of life choices that are true and gracious to each step of the process without fear of the potential outcome- the kind where you could honestly and humbly always say from within your heart from start to finish that it is, will be and was always worth it! This is true conscious commitment. If you can do this with metta (deep self and universal loving-kindness) each day of your life in all things, then sense right here and now how much more empowering, transformational and liberating life becomes! This is a good first step and first breath to be practiced so that it may become literally EVERY step and EVERY breath of your living! So the root of your cultivation in this life needs to be one of a deep honesty in integrity of what is essential, committing to fulfill what is necessary- not what is the idea of something spiritual nor something societal, nor because you think you are a ___put a self-affirmed label here___. One must be deep and humble in their commitment to do what needs doing, and this requires a commitment in fearlessness and with vulnerability (this is often part of a larger, more complex topic so I won't get into it here, but it does mean you need the courage to live with an open heart in the face of all things- without passion, blindness nor foolishness and with lots of Love* Learning to do so is part of the human cultivation that allows us to step Consciously through the Mysterious Passage and go through what are known as the Spiritual Deaths- because at the least, who can know such Mystery without clarity and truthfulness, who can confront Death graciously without fearlessness and humility?). Also, one cannot be selfish in this endeavor if one is to be holistic and whole. Before I close this post, a word of reminder: Prosperity like any other clarity realized in Consciousness, must arise from your De (virtue). So do not confuse the attainments of yourself or others made through strife to be those arising from wisdom- whether these appear to be 'attainments' in cultivation or material life. Rightful living, including the rightfulness of resource and abundance that is True prosperity manifests uniquely to each soul's path from wei wu wei (effortless action) ; do not try to justify or rationalize- to yourself or for others, the things which do not come from the virtue of benevolent light. *Love is understandably, another big topic for people, and I won't get into it here, but by this I do not necessarily mean human emotionality, nor sociopathic ideation from lack of emotions, nor the science of bio-chemistry or instinct or drive; but I do mean what is great and that which can be experienced as the bliss of enlightenment)
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Question: Would a Buddha have a "perfected" Shen? Answer: Yes, one who has attained Buddhahood has a "perfected" shen or has total Consciousness. The state of eternal void allows for unceasing peace manifesting from the pure clarity of emptiness. It is this state of wisdom and being that is essential to the total liberation of self and others. Question: How does it work if someone suddenly attains Enlightenment, how are the three treasures affected? Answer: There can be many stages, phases or progressions to enlightened being. But in general, once you come into enlightenment, a sacred connection is created between you and a purity that is transcendent of dimensions. From this connection a sacred substance is divined from which one can begin the process of healing the entire system (via the transmuted perfection of the Three Treasures) and this in turn potentiates the path for total liberation. At some point then (whether immediate through enlightenment- shen; or gradual through body energetics- jing and qi), the full depth of cultivation can only be attained through Consciousness. This is why most humans who cultivate do not obtain the great longevity (because they are fixated on form and do not realize the Consciousness necessary to exist fully) of Earthly Immortals, and why most Earthly Immortals do not progress to the Spiritual and Celestial levels (because they are focused on energetics but have not entirely realized inherent True Nature)- because of (the lack of) Consciousness (shen). In essence, the Lesser, Middle and Great Paths are really differentiated foundationaly only by the quality, perspective and depth of Consciousness from which the capacity for transmutations are actually created and fulfilled. Thus the Lesser Path (ie. those whose interests are in the health and the wellness of their own bodies, both general physical and energetic) is for those whose minds are concerned with mortality and form (and therefore still have much issue of desire, attachment and illusion to overcome); the Middle Path (ie. those whose interest are in longevity and therefore also the more subtle and distinct conditions of energy across manifestations of diverse forms) is for those whose sense is in spirit (and therefore still need to refine mental and emotional energies to clear their subtle systems); and the Great Path (ie. those whose innate sense rests in liberation) is for those whose spiritual essence is rooted in Emptiness (ie. those who are prepared and able to cleanse all karmic conditions to full absolution). Though attainment on the Lesser Path could lead to progressions of more advanced paths but certainly may not; the Great Path inherently fulfills all other paths, however it requires greater integrity, discipline, humility, and virtue beyond self-interest to fulfill. (Note then that self-interest remains a source of motivation in both the Lesser and Middle Paths, whereas in the Great Path one is able to traverse free of desire and self-interest and hence can see the Mysterious Gates and Passages and root in Nothingness.) The nature of cultivating or refining the (gross and subtle) system is cyclical: personally (ie. continuous life patterns), existentially (ie. the perpetuation and progressions of collective consciousness across time), spiritually (ie. reincarnation and existence across dimension), metaphysically (ie. formless states and energies), and systemically through the koshas (sheaths of the system) via zhong mai (the Central Channel where the transmutations of the Three Treasures are facilitated at each level of the triple burner in the dan tiens). Just as cultivating a clear and healthy body allows for more radiant Consciousness, a profound Consciousness can lead to the cultivation of a more radiant form. Each person needs to begin this process according to the level or place at which they are ready for and understand in themselves- for some this is with body or forms, for others this is with mind and emotions or the spirit. For most it is somewhere in between and involves clarifying in stillness and movement, the energies of the system through a diversity of areas in their life. And in general, all of the internal work is made easier by also maintaining the external- meaning a safe, steady, clean and healthy lifestyle; this is as true at early stages as it is at later stages and why most sages live in relative seclusion free of distraction and waste. When you wonder what the most imperative areas for you are to focus, it is generally the areas where you struggle the most (note that this may or may not be the area you are most interested in working on; and while it may not be the easiest or most immediate area you come to, it is still nonetheless, the most imperative). These could be practical things as minuscule or seemingly trite as addressing areas of tensions or stagnations in the body by regularly stretching and doing yoga, or even keeping a clean space and releasing long buried items by maintaining a consistently clean space and completely purging ‘skeletons’; to confronting and healing overwhelming things in your life such as fears, addictions, intimacy issues and chronic illness to the very best of your personal ability and in a fullest sense of self-responsibility. Take heart that in your greatest area of struggle also lie the potential to unlock your greatest strengths- this is something you learn when you both study and observe the existential ontology of constitutional predisposition, especially as they relate to your spiritual path. When self-observing that most critical aspect of challenge in yourself, do your best to see past it's form (be this a belief/concept, a strong emotion, a bodily illness, etc.,.) and relax (sung) into the insight and understanding of its root (and by root, I mean what is beyond the existential); doing so will help initiate a path through Awakening. [I want to note again here (as I have in previous other posts) that seeing the Unnameable is not the same as enlightenment. This is an area where I feel many people who have not cultivated their consciousness deeply enough misunderstand (and is a reason why there are stories of Taoists who witness the Unnameable and simply choose to walk away, or people will cultivate to high levels and then stop, stray or become delusional- the latter being stories of gurus who fall prey to desires, for instance). Enlightenment is- as I mentioned above, a sacred connection: not simply an understanding, the foundation of an awakening or series of awakenings, or necessarily even the product of profound realizations. Enlightenment is therefore, as much something which is bestowed as it is a process of becoming, and one needs to come into a very deep place within and without of essential and profound virtue and integrity in rightful being for this to occur. Though it may seem astonishing to some that certain individuals come into what appears as sudden or even gradual enlightenment through a variety of forms or unusual impasses, each individual who has and will, have within the depths of their heart and spirit a great measure of purity and capacity to be in integrity of the sacred even if it is not readily apparent or understood by others, because to most it will not be readily apparent since most are living in projection, illusion and from distraction. So if you are one of these people, keep looking inward and follow that inner light in profound faith without the doubt and fear of a lesser consciousness and even through conditions that may seem to appear as failure and hurt. Live from this unified faith in full presence- faith does NOT mean having belief, having wishful emotions, or living blindly and thus unconsciously.] Question: Does jing, chi, shen only apply to a human body? Do devas have jing, chi and shen? Or is it only when in a human body that these things can be cultivated and nourished? Answer: I will not get into the details of distinctions here, but each of the Three Treasures have pre- and post- natal conditions, and each of these are as different from and integral to each other as they are to vital essence(s)... this is a subtle distinction since in many writings the terms are used inter-changeably, especially in modern writings. Each of the Three Treasures can be cultivated into its individual yuan (original form), and then into vital essence (singular). Deities are made of the pure light of Yuan Shen from which they can generate or affect the vital essences within the universe, including in the human body. (Note: as your question included the mention of "nourishment", I want to point out that when we are cultivating for a very healthy life, the emphasis is on nourishment- ie. tonification, conservation, strengthening... these things are for the benefit of mortality; whereas when we are cultivating with enlightenment as the foundation in our hearts, the emphasis and core is on refinement- ie. purifying, releasing, simplifying... these qualities are related to the nature of immortality.)
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In Honor of the Xian Lao Tzu Was Lao Tzu one or many? Was Lao Tzu a legend of myth or a mere mortal? Was Lao Tzu a noble man or a Blue Ox? (...Who rode who home?) These kinds of questions come about because people tend to think that the human is Real and that having been a human that most others could perceive, this acknowledgement then justifies and legitimizes the existence of a self: if we can see it, taste it, smell it, and even document it (!)... many, many times over; then we can justify it, and then it must be so. Thus, to an ordinary person what is human and of humanity is more "real" than an Immortal. It is easy for the mind to mis-perceive existence and to confound the ideas of self. From the perspective of one who has come to full enlightenment- that is one who is also an Immortal, the understanding of what comprises a 'self 'and thus, what makes something real has no bearing on its temporal forms. When you too are present in Yuan Shen, then you too will know the answer to this and thus also understand the confounded perspective of this question. You too will know what it means to all at once be and never have been. You will recognize what is to be Real and therefore, what is True: you will recognize the Immortal nature within Being. Many sources guide the spiritual progress of existence- real and unreal, here and not here, all at once singular and yet many. But those sources which are True, are the most Real, and in that knowledge and wisdom is the Immortal Being transcendent within experience and without justification. Therefore it is beneficial to live purely so as to become clear in Consciousness, and therefore not confuse the imagination of self from Original Being.