darkflame

Let me begin by saying that the only reason I am writing this post is I literally keep being told to do so in my dreams, so there must be some of you that need to see it. I have a background in Chinese medicine. Not just Chinese medicine but several practices of herbalism including Ayurveda and traditional European. I have ingested hundreds of herbs over the course of my life, there is not a single energy from plants that is new to me or that I haven’t felt. In this post I am going to give you a brief summary of how to treat kundalini psychosis using chinese medicine specifically. When I say “Kundalini Psychosis” I mean this in the broadest sense possible. This post will serve as a treatment plan for any and all psychosis/psychotic states arising from energy work. So first let me tell you the good news. Psychosis from energy work is extremely easy to treat, with the right herbs in their proper dosages you can expect complete remission in 3-4 days with relief being felt in the first 48 hours. Why is this? Energy work psychosis is not like other traditional psychotic states, this is because it is caused STRICTLY by heat in the body, or ascendant qi/yang. The more difficult to treat psychotic states that arise naturally in those afflicted almost always include the above issues (Heat, ascendant qi/yang) WITH a very strong presence of phlegm/dampness. You see this in schizo, bipolar, etc. This is good news because heat is easy to extinguish, qi is easy to descend, but phlegm has a much longer treatment course. If your psychotic state arises from energy work then it is not caused by phlegm. Phlegm psychosis doesn’t arise suddenly. Whereas ascendant qi/yang and heat does. You’ll also notice, a lot of the people who enter these pseudopsychotic states via energy work are still able to carry on their day to day lives. Even though they are miserable. This is because it’s a condition of TRUE heat / ascendant energy. Not consciousness obstructed by phlegm. Before I lay out the cure it’s important to note that this post does not serve as a replacement for an in-person Chinese medicine practitioner. But, many of you live in remote areas or are only near bottom of the barrel practitioners. Just like regular doctors, the skill difference between chinese medicine doctors varies drastically and if you get the wrong one you will see more benefit from just following this post. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ So let's get into it. There are 3 predominant patterns that are present in energy work psychosis. Heat (Of liver or heart) Ascendant Yang Ascendant qi Ascendant yang and ascendant qi are difficult to separate. They are basically the same thing and I will list some medicinals that sink both. Tcm works with formulas. Not individual herbs. That being said I will give examples of both for each pattern in case only one is available to you. Liver heat herbs: Huang Qin Long Dan Cao Heart Heat Herbs: Huang Lian Lian Xin Ascendant yang: Dai Zhe Shi Long Gu Mu Li Ascendant qi herbs: Dai Zhe Shi Now for formulas (all numbers represent dosage in grams) (Use an instapot or pressure cooker for easy cooking): Liver heat formula: Long Dan Xie Gan Tang Heart heat formula: Dao Chi San Descend yang: Boil 60 grams of long gu + 30 grams of mu li for 2 hours. Drink over the course of the day. You will feel your consciousness settle back into your body. Descend qi: Ben tun tang: Gan cao 6 Chuan xiong 6 Dang gui 6 Ban xia 12 Huang qin 6 Ge gen 15 Bai shao 6 Shen jiang 3 Sang bai pi 24 The cure all formula that covers all the bases: Long dan xie gan tang + Dao chi san + 30g mu li + 60g Long gu + 15g Dai Zhe Shi The above formula should quickly cure just about every case of energy work psychosis that you come across. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Keep in mind. These formulas are a short term strategy. They are very cold, and very descending. If you find yourself prone to pseudopsychotic states like this it’s almost certain that you are also yin and blood deficient. When your symptoms subside you should seek out a tcm practitioner and get on formulas to address your underlying deficiencies. I drafted this post up very quickly, look back in the future for edits.

So I have recently begun practicing spring forest qi gong, and I am encountering the same issue that made me leave kriya yoga. It seems to drive energy upward way more than my body can take. I do not have bipolar but because of my experiences with herbalism/psychedelics' I have experienced pretty much every altered state there is. And the closest thing I can compare what qi gong and kriya yoga do to me is mild mania + anxiety. Because I am very experienced with tcm it is easy for me to get rid of these symptoms (descend yang, drive qi downward, and purge fire for those wondering). But I feel as though I shouldn't have to be taking herbs just to maintain such an early level of practice. I am literally just doing the first module of level 1 spring forest qi gong. I think I need to explore an entirely different approach to energy work, because these forms that invigorate qi through the channels are just not for me. I have heard someone mention "water movements" but I have no idea what these are, I am new to all of this. I think part of the problem is I am already and extremely creative, mentally driven person. I live in my mind and there is already so much energy in the upper jiao that when I begin moving qi it rapidly overloads me. Where someone else might benefit from ascending yang/qi and find it energizing I find it far too much. If I were to practice qi gong for multiple hours a day without taking herbs I would quickly go insane. I imagine this is what happens to those who experience qi gong psychosis, I am able to recognize it early though because of being able to read my body energetics through herbalism.

Are there any alchemical work / qi gong that focus more on calm and serenity? 2 years ago I was meditating almost 2 hours a day and it completely transformed who I was as a person. Surely there are practices that have less focus on moving qi? (Anything besides presence meditation, already very familiar with that)

So I don't necessarily have an excess of energy. I workout a lot and my creative mind is properly exercised in the business that I run. I will honestly give the workouts after a session a try. Although I don't find workouts particularly grounding.

I will give this a try. Although I wouldn't say I'm not connected to my body. I do a lot of weightlifting and I got into energy work after I noticed I could feel what I know now as qi moving through my forearm by hovering my other hand above it. I am pretty sensitive to these things.

In the end of the spring forest first video Chunyi ends it with body massage. I can try adding meditation but I can almost guarantee it won't be strong enough. Even the mineral yang descender in tcm like long gu require a high dose just to bring me somewhere near baseline. And when you say to bring the energy down to the lower dantien, do you mean standard presence based meditation. Or actually visualizing the energy going there?

I suffer from kidney yin deficiency. Already on high dose herbal formulas to combat this. What is the best classic routine to tonify yin? (Prefer older practices as opposed to those invented in the last 100 years) Also side question. Does eating kidneys tonify jing? Since that is where prenatal jing is stored I would think that but I could be wrong.

What is the best qi gong sequence to tonify/increase shen?

Greetings everyone. I am an experienced tcm practitioner here are some pictures of my herb garage: https://imgur.com/a/3M8MVCR And that is only a fraction of what I have in storage. I have tested almost 300 herbs in my body at this point. Not including mineral substances. I used tcm and herbs to completely occur extreme anxiety and psychosis that was ruining my life for years. Through this herbal journey I have become very very in tune with how different substances affect my body. At this point I can ingest herbs outside of the Chinese pharmacopoeia and with decent confidence say what their classical categorization would have been. The reason I am joining this forum is I want to add qi gong to my daily practice to enhance the energy manipulation I am achieving with herbs. Primarily I want to enhance kidney yin as that is the main deficiency I suffer from. Any classic routines for the enhancement of kidney yin?

Alright excellent I appreciate your response. Any good books on xin zhai?

Xin Zhai is essentially presence meditation correct? And any good resources on Yang Sheng Fa?

Any yin tonifying qigong guys?