rkc

Went through the entire thread, trying to figure if Max’s I Jong stance, which is a simple Zhan Zhuang, aggravates an existing chronic sciatica. 

Maybe I made the mistake of adopting the Zhan Zhuang stance in the five elements positions too... with the briefest holding, my entire right side went into painful spasm. The second time I tried it after the first time effects waned, the same thing happened. 

Ive done Zhan Zhuang long before, and over months my sciatic pain increased. So I stopped. I think the pain comes with realignment... I would have healed if I’d persisted with some time and postural adjustments. 

Am am back at it now... intend to root out all structural and internal imbalance. 

Thank you you all for the insights in this thread.

2 hours ago, 道 熊 猫 said:

 

thanks for starting this thread as I'm reading Max's Kunlun Book (2014 Version) at the moment. Synchronicity kicked in yesterday as I also browsed Vadim Zeland's book while reading you post in which you mention him...
Would be great to hear more of your progress. I basically read every Kunlun thread here in the last months, as a lot of them are quite old it's good to get some new info.

Hey Adrian, 

are you practicing it too? It would be great to hear further from you on it, if so. I too have the 2014 version. You must be reading Zeland’s first book. Do look up Neville too.... his books and lectures are easily available on the net free of cost.

Yeah, the synchronicity sure happens a lot.

To share something with you - 

It likely pertains to kunlun clearing, because I rarely get ill — I suddenly came down with a very painful lump in my throat and headache this morning soon after practice, and by evening it just as suddenly disappeared. In AYP, (advanced yoga practices, a fire path as opposed to kunlun, a water path) we called it purification, and when something stayed for long, over purification. Pacing was the answer. Probably  applies to kunlun too.

7 hours ago, Lost in Translation said:

If you like Simon Baker (and who doesn't, right?) then check out a series called "The Guardian" from 2000-2002. In my opinion that is among the best television content ever produced.

Did try... couldn’t find it in my part of the world. 

The tv series ‘The mentalist’ is a pointer... though neither a film, nor metaphysical 

Did I miss it, or did we leave out ‘inception’?

2 minutes ago, Apech said:

 

Sure its a jungle but you need to know what's out there.  Ok there are con-men and so on - but people are not stupid (generally) and can decide for themselves what they feel a connection to and otherwise.  So I think extensive reading (as well as practise) is a good idea.

No other way Apech cat. I was just cribbing to no avail. 

Unless one is able to see the end consistently.m

Nothing... was in the middle of kunlun this morning... and laughed mindlessly. Then sang tunelessly the rest od the morning 

By the way, this is for any kunlun beginners that may stumble onto this... 

don’t begin without a rubber mat, fur rug or leather mat... I tried woollen shawl... but some days in have developed a low back pain. This is a result of ‘energy leakage’ affecting the kidneys that Max warns about on his site. 

If if I go deeper, I probably bought into that agreement... which is one way to populate your reality... 

On 12/2/2018 at 2:51 AM, ben kaf said:

Hi,

 

I am Ben. I'm in my early 30s and I have been practicing various spiritual paths (mostly kundalini yoga and vipassana) for more than a decade and I would like to switch to Taoism from now on.

I really like to learn and practice Nei dan or inner alchemy. I know it is not an easy path and I need a solid base for start. So how should I start? 

Sorry Ben, I read your original post just now. You are looking at something specific... Nei Dan. So please strike off my earlier twopence...

On 12/3/2018 at 6:52 PM, Apech said:

I would suggest you do a lot of background reading and looking around for a teacher - but don't tie yourself down to any system at first.

 

Apech, this is a veritable jungle.... not the list you’ve given, but the whole plethora of eastern ‘cultivation’, ‘inner’, healing’ practices. Could loose endless lifetimes wandering around, getting nowhere. 

There are definitely as many paths as people. 

There has to be simple inbuilt way of knowing, realising your potential, enlightenment, empowerment... all of it.

1 hour ago, ben kaf said:

 

What are some authentic masters you would suggest? I know Mantak Chia, Master Yang (YMAA founder), wu dang chen (he has a website same as his name) and Damo mitchel. Also michale Winn.

 

I also have another question. is it ok to start with chi kong or it's better to start with tai chi. I practiced tai chi for a few months before but I did't have much success

Hi Ben Kaf, my twopence here... I read some of Yu Darryl’s books on chi Kung cultivation (ekindle books on amazon). They are very practical and easy to follow. Plus very result oriented. 

A martial Ian arts and healing master once told me that some of the simplest practices for cultivating chi are the most potent. 

9 hours ago, liminal_luke said:

rkc,

 

Sifu Jenny Lamb, who originally taught Max Kunlun (she calls it Yi Gong) is also a Buddhist meditator.  She says that if you`re doing Yi Gong without awareness you aren`t doing Yi Gong.  So the awareness and focused attention developed in practices like vipassana synchs very well with Kunlun.  Other strong practitioners have combined Kunlun and vipassana as you seem to be doing.

Liminal luke, I really appreciate that insight. I hadn’t heard of Sifu Jenny Lamb either. 

Awareness along with the bigger picture is the core of any practice, as it is with the entire life process. Which is why I could be doing rigorous practices for years and not really touch the heart of the inner self or the primary cause.

Though every practice offers a bigger picture, the instant clarity and application I found with Neville Goddard and Vadim Zeland is outstanding. When I bring that consciousness to  practices like Vipassana... it’s mind blowing. 

I’m sure many here with their deep practices will be able to benefit from them. 

Do you all do various forms of Qi gong?

Thelerner, thank you.... should I be at all surprised that Smile found the same connection between Vipassana and Kunlun that I was staring at. And I’ve just about begun both.

Ive also had the same thoughts about time... it doesn’t exist, except in the human or earth experience. So all ‘past life’ experiences are created in this moment. Or in the moment of remembrance. And can be uncreated or recreated in the now. 

Apech , Thelerner has quoted Max’s answer about the need for insulation with the rug or rubber mat. I’m not in favour of extraneous props, but I reckon I’d go with the basic process till I know better, like thelerner.

though neville and zeland moved me inside by miles, these two practices, V & K, have given me very speedy shifts physically, tangibly. 

This is has been incredibly useful for me Thelerner

Aetherous, there seem to be no teachers available to me. So will follow the book, and helpful advice such as yours. 

Thank you Marblehead.

Thank you for the very helpful advice and guidance Aetherous. I’ll see if I can find any teachers where I live

17 hours ago, Fa Xin said:

Hello, Rkc, and welcome.

 

Your membership is approved and we're happy you found your way to us. We look forward to accompanying you on some of the way that you still have to go.

 

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Hi rkc,

 

im not familiar with Kunlun but there’s a few here that are. Maybe try to search at the top. Welcome and enjoy. 😊

 

You are welcome to jump right in to the ongoing discussions, revive an older thread, start a new thread of your own, or start a discussion in the "Newcomer Corner" sub-forum to expand on your introduction or ask general questions to help you get started.

 

May you enjoy your time here.

 

Fa Xin

Thank you Fa Xin! I’ll find my way around. Looks like an eclectic mix of practices here... look forward to Learning and sharing!

Hi everyone! I’ve just begun kunlun... a bit stalled for want of a rubber mat... but using a woollen shawl meanwhile. Tailed this in after Vipassana. I found the latter very helpful in deepening consciousness practices. 

I come with consciousness practices aka Neville Goddard,  Vadim Zeland. Have practiced deep meditation as per classical Raj yoga, Qi gong of various paths, and a few healing streams.

Now looking to accelerate everything.

with kunlun level one, was told to add one breath and I jong. In what order do you do them? And what duration? Is one breath practiced with I jong ?