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  1. 1 minute ago, lifeforce said:

     

    Why does it seem legit ?

    Is it because he wears a funny hat and Chinese silk pyjamas ?

    Online Daoist training ???

    No wonder the internet is rife with these charlatans when people believe anything.

    I'm sorry to come off as blunt but I'm extremely skeptical of people selling 'online training'

     

     

    He has a website contact him..lol


  2. 5 hours ago, GSmaster said:

     

    I just mean there is not a single real demonstrations of him, beyond drawing some animations and graphics.

    Well, if there is - someone should post it here.

    The videos are not watchable atleast for me, it is too much talking nonsense.

    John had plenty of impressive demonstrations, without any talking.

     

    50$ usd month for membership on forum or 600$ a year is similar to good fitness club membership.

    It is not clear what people are buying into, beyond ego ascending the heavens.

     

    I once thought he was running a forum for cultivators, registered there and got banned, apparently it is a forum for people paying him money. Think about it, would anyone with knowledge of cultivation, go to such place where you have to pay money and scale your ego.

     

    That is just my @gut@ feeling, but using mopai term in the name of the site and forum, is for hyping on the popularity of chang and attracting customers.

     

    I agree $600.00 a year is a hefty price to not know who your teacher is or who his teacher was and to not know what skill your developing.  Lets put a light on some good teachers. 

     

    Here are some good teachers.

     

    https://www.taoistwellness.com/

     

    http://daoistkungfu.com/

     

    https://www.wudang-academy.com/master-tang/

     

    http://www.fourdragonsschool.com/daoist-training-syllabus.html

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  3. 16 minutes ago, GSmaster said:

     

    I have tried to read his site and webforum once, I can't make any certain assertion about him nor do I want to. May be he has something real, may be only delusional. It is very naive to trust anyone on this subject. If he has something real, the way he presents his abilities and his system is very strange and shadowy.

     

    But there is quite a lot of confusion and mess overall, and mixing everything together, which makes me highly doubt that it is the right way to go for anyone.

     

    Real teaching is simple and straight, while it may have a huge depth and 0.01% of adepts truly understand the meaning, it is rarely a cacaphonia mix of different things alltogether, without any discerning for Emerald Scripture of Hermes, separation of true and false is the first stage to any profound knowledge.

     

    What I see here, is trying to encroach adepts from all different paths, i.e you like magic? come to us, you like mopai? come to us, you want daoist come to us, and then sell some forum membership or subscription.

     

     

    I hear ya its not like lonemanpai can be tracked to a province in China. 

     

    I agree it is very shadowy. 

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  4. Traditionally a Pai is centered around a skill.

     

    For Ex.

    Like for Mopai it is yin yang gong. 

     

    So to even have a name you have to have a skill that you develop.

     

    Max is smart he had a Chinese teacher even kunlun is centered around an attainment. 

     

    Now honestly what skill is lonemanpai developing and known for and can demonstrate? 

     

    If the answer is none then it is bs and does not follow the Chinese tradition. 

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  5. It's not even correct bs.

     

    If one is going to call himself a Pai he should at least follow the Chinese tradition and accept Toudai claim a mountain a sole founder and claim a particular skill. With a lineage chart and artifacts to prove your boast. 

     

    I'll call it bluntly. 

     

    Lonemanpai is not authentic the teacher of this has not graduated any teachings nor passed any tests from a former master to maintain the integrity so be a successor of anything.

     

    Even Max Christiansen had to attain golden dragon body an then spoke to his teachers later an had it verified. 

     

    The case with Lonemanpai is just pure bs. 

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  6. 3 minutes ago, thelerner said:

    It's presented a bit bizarrely, and is one mans creation but from my limited reading, watching and correspondence I'd put LMP into an area like KAP, a very talented person creating a synthesis, a distilling of many energetic systems and traditions into something that draws from tradition, but without the trappings.   SoG may look like he comes from a Mad Max movie, but the man has the mind of a scholar.  He knows his stuff.

     

    I haven't been in contact with the guy for years, but he seemed to be a person of integrity who walked the walk.  If you're looking for power, high energy route, this kind of 'Jeet Kun Do' of the energetics world could be worth a try.  For that matter so could KAP, but I get the feeling that KAP is a less manic style of training. 

     

     

     

     

    Sorry I cant concur.

     

    I know what he is saying bs.

     

    He is not a Pai he doesnt know what A Pai is and John isnt dead.  

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  7. LoneManPai is just ego run a muck.

     

    John says he is a kung fu master wont even call himself a taoist master but lonemanpai says he is a necromancer. 

     

    Then 

     

    Lonemanpai declares John is dead. An that people should join lonemanpai because it is just as great as MoPai.

     

    I mean Wow!

     

    What an ego. 

     

    I mean John only had to find a real teacher baishee study for decades and then inherit his master teachings and school. 

     

    But now some no name guy can make up his complete Pai (saying indirectly that he is better than Pak John). An people should join that.

     

     

     

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  8. LoneManPai? The name itself is an oxymoron...

     

    Questions.

     

    1. Who is this guy?

    2. Who is his teacher?

    3. What skill did he master?

     

    Personally my time and energy is too precious to spend on a guy who's credentials I cant verify. There are too many real taoist masters out there to spend my time on a fake one. 

     

    Chinese culture isnt bullshit they have lineage charts for a reason. 

     

    Plus just teaching and having a couple of teachings doesnt make a Pai. An informal or formal one. 

     

    Honestly just sounds like a bunch of kids who read Magus of Java too many times and are having fun on the internet and just making it up as they go. 

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  9.  Im interested in your book I just have no idea who you are or what you do. Is this kung fu or just chi kung you mention wizardly so it\s it taoist magic or something else.?

     

    Are you accepting students?

     

    An so forth. I wish you all the best and hope your book is a big success!

     

    Thank you.


  10. 45 minutes ago, Starjumper said:

    Thanks Dwai, I am happy that you are enjoying it.  

     

     

    I'm glad to inform you that you are in luck because I just spent a month and a half writing sixty thousand words about  those very same things.

     

    More about me and my practice:  I'm one of the Bozos on this bus, and I practice Tien Shan chi Kung, something you probably haven't heard of.

     

    Ok.. Is the book instructional or more of a biography? 

     

     


  11. Talking about charged up specially made dan pills. 

     

    You have to be from the same lineage as the recipe and in good standing. The ingredients must be properly prepared then ground down rolled up possible put into a cauldron. Then charged up by the master or the deity or a ancestor of the lineage to put years of cultivation into the dan pill. 

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  12. 15 hours ago, Stosh said:

    There is only so much to learn from the examples of others , what is written in the classics , or even from a living teacher. Right? 

    So , at some point , when one feels that they have the basic plan under their belt , they then need to apply it in the complex real-time world. 

     

    One can try to master the entire world , to know the perfect response for every situation , and so forth... (but because none of us see the future completely and in detail ,, the right thing to do is often a thing we must guess at).   

     

    That's why Tao is called or described as an ally , its not the be-all end all answer to- Life , the Universe and everything.

    It doesn't make one infallible or perfect - but the understanding of it should enlighten one to the fact that there is no perfection other than to say things are already what they are and are not deficient or imperfect, since that is a subjective judgement ( that implies expectations of what, rightfully, things should be ,,and are not) . 

     

    So there is no 'whole system' which includes all the applications , but there IS a 'whole system'  in that all the hints given ,can add up , to all the hints garnered. 

    IMO

     

    Kind of airy fairy an not really how things work. In the real world you learn apply, graduate, then start your own practice.

     

    Its like saying oh I took one law class and now im  a lawyer forget the bar exam or court room exp or a college degree...

     

    The real problem with taoist practitioners is that most never graduate then an branch off put a mix of all they learned an then label it a full system to the point the chikung scene is filled with a bunch of failed students posing as masters. It happened in kung fu first then chikung.

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  13. 2 hours ago, wandelaar said:

    What do you mean by the whole system?

     

     

    Sure lets talk on mastery and application.  The path of mastery is endless. Just as a lawyer goes to law school first before starting his career as a lawyer; one has to learn first then apply.

     

    Mastery is the continuing use of skillful application of a given trade but one has to learn it first. Without learning the art one can not apply it. An if one never applies it then they will never understand the art an has no hope in mastering its application.


  14. 1 hour ago, wandelaar said:

    Being approached as a teacher has to be earned. I'm too old to throw away my time, energy and money on following people who pose as teachers without being able to show that they are worth the appellation.

     

    For me it's the other way around: only when somebody has accomplishments to show that he is worthy of being called a teacher, then I will regard him as a teacher and show him the kind of respect that goes with it.

     

    Life is too short to learn from someone who doesn't have the whole system. Question how can one call themselves a master of said system if they didn't learn all of it in the first place to master it? Seems to be some form of mental gymnastics to cover up some insecurities to the likes of which I have never seen.


  15. Hi my name is Joe I am a person who likes to meditate and come here to further my knowledge and help contribute where I can.

     

    Hope to see you around the forum.

     

    Talk to me...

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