Mikeyboy1111

Ahh yes, Kumar is a great teacher (I am a former qigong student of his), especially so in the first two stages of the daoist approach to spiritual realisation e.g. lao tsu's traditional water meditation method. Even so, the third stage is not methodical. It is the approach of 'wu wei wu'. Here, the harmonising of the five elements, whose fusion created the Spirit foetus, creates Spirit realisation. There are no different traditions when it comes to the authentic meaning of the trigrams and five elements. This is probably the root of your confusion and many others on trigram and five element understanding. Thanks for the taomeow link, I will check it out at some point.

Daoist cosmology perfectly describes the creation of the five elements from the Fu Hsi trigram arrangement. There is no method, it is what it is...interestingly this phenomenon is described in the Huang Di Nei Jing, one of the oldest books known to mankind and itself a transcript of oral transmissions going back 4500 years. The jewel in the crown of the Yellow Emperor's classic is the alchemy of 'tian gan di zhi' aka Stems & Branches. Is that helpful?

Hello Mudfoot, I agree, tantric practice is a great way to activate, stimulate, refine and purify essence. The qi of heaven is the five elements. The qi of earth is the deep energies, the six divisions. The pre-heavenly trigram arrangement describes the creation of the five elements; the five from the eight confounds many and is a mystery not known to many. The post-heavenly trigram arrangement manifests the five elements. The connection between the two trigram arrangements cannot be overlooked when examining the process of energy manifesting as matter. My own take on the Matsumoto/Birch book is a japanese misunderstanding of what stems & branches really means. Not even a valiant effort, so why give it another try?

Well, as you probably know, the fusion of the five elements at the lower dan creates, controls and nourishes the Spirit foetus. The five elements themselves were created from the five forces; those five forces were created by the five heavens. And so, the five elements are all about the quality of qi and not the quantity of qi. This is why the way is greater or lesser, longer or shorter, quicker or slower. Sure, there are many valid daoist practices for increasing the quantity of (yang) qi and opening energy gates. This is working with the qi of earth. Eventually though, it becomes necessary to work with heavenly qi, nourishing Spirit growth through internal harmonising and the harmonisation of the internal with the external. This is done alchemically through the balancing of the five elements. This may be of interest to you, just saying.

An excellent work in my opinion, as is her 'Secret Treatise on the Spiritual Orchid'. By the way, the advanced five element theory of 'Tian Gan Di Zhi' sheds some light on the five elements and daoist alchemy...the link on this is here http://masteracupuncture.co.uk/secret medicine.html Enjoy

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