wandelaar

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  1. What We Think We Know

    @C T So I'm acting as a robot, while you are partly free? Following the advice of manitou I will quit this non-discussion. Good luck.
  2. What We Think We Know

    It seldom happens that people are convinced by arguments. When I was young I loved participating in debates. But not any more. However - the compulsion to correct what I think is wrong dies hard.
  3. What We Think We Know

    On the basis of your latest posts I have to conclude that we largely agree. So no problem there. For your information, I have been greatly influenced by Karl Popper in finding a way out of the traditionalism-criticism dilemma. My ironic post about "impressive" was directed to CT who is hiding behind overly abstract language as a way to escape criticism. It's exactly by using simple (or at least well defined) words with a relatively "rigid meaning" that one can expose oneself to possibly meaningful and useful criticism. That's the way I follow. Not hiding or obfuscating, but sticking out one's position as clear as possible. And by the way, I don't consider my own personality as in any way great or superior. I'm only trying to make good use of its peculiarities.
  4. What We Think We Know

    Nice - sounds impressive.
  5. Proposed simplification of forums

    1. Truth (Simple - who needs falsehoods!)
  6. What We Think We Know

    Could you please tell us what "one's relationship with numerous reference points" means?
  7. What We Think We Know

    Yes - but we cannot throw away everything all at once, even if we wanted to. Critical evaluation is always a piecewise process. I don't believe there is a "pure me" somewhere inside that will appear as soon as I succeed in doing away with everything I ever learned. If such were possible than I would simply fall back to the state of a grown up baby unable to speak, reason or behave myself in public. We should - in my opinion - follow a middle way between pure traditionalism and pure criticism. Not because it's a middle way, but because both alternatives to it are absurd.
  8. What We Think We Know

    Is it a problem to have inhered ideas from others? I think we would be hardly human if as children we had no education, learned no language, etc. But as we grow up we can gradually make our own choices, and if need be throw away what we dont't like or need.
  9. What We Think We Know

    I'll be happy to do that, but how could one possibly tell what is truth and what falsehood without somehow using once's own understanding of the difference.
  10. What We Think We Know

    I completely agree with this guy! Why use somebody else's criteria when there is no reason to do so?
  11. What We Think We Know

    Our own naturally!
  12. What We Think We Know

    @OldDog Well - how could it even be otherwise? In the case described we will hear the arguments from the other camp, but we will not recognize them as arguments. As for myself I am willing to expand my concept of what constitutes a legitimate argument, but only when it is demonstrated that the kind of argument in question indeed (in all probability) leads to new knowledge.
  13. Proposed simplification of forums

    Could be done this way: The Dao Bums > Arts and Practices > Martial Arts
  14. What We Think We Know

    @ Ilumairen OK - so be it.
  15. What We Think We Know

    I only read part of the article. Of course I'm not completely free from social influences and we each start our journey with what we learned in our education. But that is not the point. The crucial thing here is whether one remains open to contrary evidence even when this conflics with what one considered as probably true until then.
  16. What We Think We Know

    A study of the foundations of knowledge (if they even exist) could easily take years of study without necessarily leading to a solution. One could start reading books on epistemology, scepticism and the philosophy of science. To make a long story short: I don't think absolutely sure foundations of knowledge can be found. The best thing we can do is keeping an open mind for the possibility that we might be wrong. But how do I even know that the latter is actually the best thing we could do. Well - I don't. But correcting my views when confronted with opposing facts is what feels natural to me. And as I don't know of any other approach that's more satisfying, that is what I do. I have a huge aversion to everything related to herd mentality, so I don't think the social aspects of knowledge acquisition are very relevant to me personally.
  17. Proposed simplification of forums

    Well - when there is agreement we can now move on. Thank you.
  18. Proposed simplification of forums

    Could the MoPai discussion please be held in a topic of it's own?
  19. Proposed simplification of forums

    The Dao Bums > Arts and Practices > Healing Arts Simple
  20. Proposed simplification of forums

    @ Michael Sternbach Yes - Arts and Practices would have to be a high level section, preferable with subsections as you proposed. This would then take care of the more practically oriented discussions. The mainly theoretical discussions would then take place in Sean's proposed section:
  21. Proposed simplification of forums

    I was thinking of Traditional Chinese Medicine, calligraphy, tea ceremony, Taoist magic, feng shui, etc. If we add martial arts to this list they could together form the section: Arts and Practices.
  22. Proposed simplification of forums

    Why not make a section for Taoist and other spiritual arts generally (not just the martial arts). Like: Arts and Practices
  23. Proposed simplification of forums

    I think it a good idea to have some places for serious discussion and information on this forum and some other places for fun, jokes and shallow talk. But I don't like the idea of some supreme authority deciding who and what belongs where. The sub-forums could be chosen and named in such a way that they attract the different kinds of people to the places where they belong. For instance: the more serious places could have a more serious name, and the less serious places could have a less serious, somewhat funny name. In this way the Bums will find out for themselves where they are most happy to be. But we need to have different (serious and non-serious) sub-forums for this to be possible.
  24. No more right-wing bullshit.

    I will stop participating in this topic for some time as it is taking up too much of my time and energy. We will see how things develop.
  25. No more right-wing bullshit.

    Yes - when used as a kind of mechanical procedure to arrive at the truth, blindly following the middle way is flawed. But then that's not what I proposed. What I protest against is when parties don't even want to consider the sheer possibility that their political opponents could be right about a few points. This leads to the absurdity that one party automatically starts denying that something could possibly be the case just because the other party says that it is. This sort of thing happens more often than one would believe before looking in to it.