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Keep in mind that I know many variations of the stories and can flexibly adopt a new model if needed. There are those that I like though. This is the crystallization of my western art of QBL. To provide some humor in the thread, Lucifer is kinda used in an insult way by some demons - in the sense of "oh your so cool, Lucifer." Lightbearer and all that shit. (You think you're all that) Worship of demons is demonolatry, submission. But people who say they worship Lucifer are talking about something else and it sounds like the Neshamah, themselves that they are worshiping. Whatever floats their boat, and it is positive belief in some ways. The concept of the morning star spans various continents and traditions. The devil, the big D (the Satan or hebrew for the enemy) is not lucifer - but the demon that snuck into the garden of eden to convince Chevah - the Eve to partake of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil in genesis. This is akin to sabatoge if you think about it - giving Da'ath to humans before they're considered ready. That's like making your eggs aware before you srcamble them. Humanity is now sentient, aware of good and evil and will resist its own development which is done through good and evil. Kind of a dick move, by an angel that wanted to show its creator that humans are not worth their privileges. This is Da'ath is missing in the tree of life as shown by the golden dawn, but they dont have their knowledge striaght because the tree clearly missing Da'ath is the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The tree of life is considered to be by magicians, Enoch or humanity - and it's fruit is the goal of the left hand path. The adam and eve were thrust out of the garden before they could partake of it and become as gods. --- If you want to know more about the Devil, the Satan - evoke Azael - the opposer of El. Azazael - Double Azael or Azael squared. Mahazael is is Great Azael. Commonly known as Baezlebub, Leviathan, Behemoth. They are the same, but different being - kept in different proportions to prevent that one being fro manifesting in it's total complexity, which would be very bad for us humans ;).

I'm writing a book about my knowledge on the Western arts. Even if I don't publish, it can be an exercise to organize and crystallize my thoughts. Tell me what you think about it. Critique please. --- There is no clean way to begin; especially when you are discussing a topic so complex and messy as life. I guess the easiest way to start is on a tiny piece of it - me. I am a human, my species is Homo Sapien Sapiens and I was born into the world just as a transition of technology was changing the way society works. Welcome to the 21st century, an era of human history where technologies such as internet are revolutionizing the way the human species lives. Change, especially in nature is considered slow - the theory of evolution says that 1) random mutation occurs and 2) the enviroment selects which phenotypes or the part of your genetics that is expressed. Over time, a trend occurs and a species is defined by selected traits that provide the greatest fitness. I sometimes feel that our progress is now exceeding that of nature's. Our bodies are not yet adapted to concrete jungles, to strange work schedules, to the food we are fed. Our minds have not yet cuaght up with the complexity of knowledge today. Our minds are stuck for the most part, in the stone age. We follow the grunts of our elders, until we mature enough to grunt ourself, and then we seek to have the power they used to have over us. Western Society as a whole is stuck in Agricultural Ages, where all we want is to be the privileged Magistrates and Nobles. This is the world I was born into. With our body of knowedge is now growing so fast and we understand more and more about the world, many people seek refuge in religion or "scienc-ism" (not true science), or the grunts of their elders to find their purpose in life. Some models of society alienate certain components so that few can stand on top - and the reality of those below are carefully engineered by those on top. One obvious, example of this is the body shape of women, where they are sold an image of slim is attractive and women must fit this ideal in order to be loved or desired or their life will end - when we could see clearly that in the past that non-slim body shapes were also considered attractive. This model is perpetuated so that those on top can sell these suckers beauty products and make a profit. In conclusion, this fear of alienization created by an ideal of attractiveness and defines the life of those who let other people tell them how they should see reality and live. All around you are messages of how you should live your life. Join X religion. Use X product. Do X. Do not do Y. In society, its grow up. Get a job. Find a mate and create children then die. The revolution the world is undergoing has a negative aspect in that all this shit, impurity is passed on from person to person. In my eyes, it is a sickness. Im not down to follow this script. I don't like others telling me how I should live. I want to define reality. Push back harder on the world, that pushes its values onto me (KNOWLEDGE). I am me, and this is my journey (COURAGE). For purpose, for understanding (WILL). To quiet the impure, unending beliefs in my loved ones (SILENCE). To control the bubble of reality me an my love ones exist in and strive towards the mystery, the unknown ending. Aum Ha! In the lowest points of my life, I stumbled onto the wisdom of the ancients, the Scientia De Magia, the power of magic. When the first spell I cast worked - in a fit of immaturity, I did a hoodoo spell to freeze a teacher's passion for teaching and patience when I couldnt get out of that teacher's class in high school. The next day, she blew up on a student and was suspended from school for 2 weeks when before, she would elude all punishment that complaints netted her. She then announced her retirement and never bothered me again. Looking back, perhaps I should have creatively made her do her own job instead of destructively forcing her off. But this moment, was the tipping point for me. Whether by coincidence or luck, whether I was insane or not, this was the start of my journey into the Western Esoteric arts. Maybe I'm insane, but arent we all? Im functional, and am studying in a top college majoring in Biochemistry and can probably convince the person diagnosing me to be not insane. Join me in my exploration down the rabbit hole - and let's explore the wonder of magic as technology used by humans across the myriad ages. Let your mind enter the age of discovery. This is the path of the magus - angel to some, demon to others.

Ok, what kind of immortal would be the one that is connected to all their selves in infinite worlds? The pure self that is unified into mystery, into union.

It does not matter if you believe in the existence of God or not. It is simply enough to keep the verdict open. A seeker of truth believes nothing. If there was such a God, it would lack definition because it encompasses all qualities. How can it fit in a book? But some say it is mysterious and can fit in a single breath. I think that all religions are just attempts to describe this. It is, and is not. It is what it is.

xD Yes. But it's also used by Qianfeng school for 'Nature' and 'Life' that the cultivation of the MCC is supposed to do.

If not the MCO, then we know the main goals below, but what are the minor goals that lead to this? ie. purifying the emotions in the body. Is there a method? And is Yan = Yang?

Can you talk about 命 and 性 and what you think about it?

Ok. Then can you explain your school's depictions of immortals? Humbly asking.

Telomeres are DNA-protein structures that form protective caps at the end of eukaryotic chromosomes. They constitute the safeguards of chromosome degradation and are responsible for maintaining genomic integrity. The multifactorial nature of telomere length (TL) regulation increases the perplexity of studies in the field. TL is characterized by a high variability among individuals (birth and later life) and among species but it is unknown whether this is associated with their lifespan potential. TL is also highly heritable, longer in women than in men; it is highly variable between tissues and organs and inversely related to chronological age. Accelerated telomere loss has been associated with many chronic diseases of aging. Premature aging or cellular senescence, seen in early life, through increased oxidative stress and DNA damage to telomeric ends may be initiators of processes related to these diseases. During the recent decade, research around telomere biology has rapidly expanded due to its dynamic involvement in aging and longevity. However, longevity is not necessarily an indication of disability-free aging. There is substantial scientific disagreement and controversial results, regarding even the basic nature of aging and the path to longevity. We review the current evidence linking telomere biology to aging processes and mechanisms leading to longevity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24350925 We have a solid basis in this age that damage to the DNA, causes the effects of aging we can see. I said in the last post that modification ie. reversal of damage to DNA would change the "age"/senescence of the cells of your body. I have neither said turtles use the methods I have spoken of before - so its an irrelevant statement. As for turtles, I have not studied the longevity methods of turtles (do they even change their DNA to live longer?). Please provide a basis for your statement and how turtles live so long - thanks ;). I would say that your statement lacks critical thinking, for how can you discount the idea that neidan does not modify the DNA? I have neither agreed nor disagreed with your statement but am poking at your poor logic.

The mysterious gate, the secret door 玄關. Currently studying Taoist Yoga. Your words help me greatly, Awaken. Are you talking about the one with prenatal breath or no breath? "Behind the mysterious gate 玄關 and before the spirit of the valley (ku Shen)in the zu qiao 祖窍 is true nature (Chen hsin) which is the source of breath (chen hsi). Ordinary (post-natal) breathing cannot reach the zu qiao to return to the source of true breath, but the immortal breath can. This immortal breath (hidden in the zu qiao) will not scatter away when ordinary breathing is well regulated. When qi returns to the original ocean (its source) life becomes boundless."

What do you mean by ageing? The deterioration of the body? That is said to be the mal-effects of the shortening of telomere causing the mis-replication of dna. Any techniques would be focused on modifying the expression of your DNA. While I dont think this is impossible, success on a large scale basis ie. all the cells of your body would utilize something beyond the knowledge of humans . That's right, it's time to perform evocation.

Embodying the Dao, you can manifest any quality. Evil and good are just descriptions, humans try to use to describe you.

When you can do something barely thinking about it ie. play a composition on piano with your eyes closed while you're thinking about the structure of the composition and maybe even how to change it. Basically, the ability to have large amounts of control with minimum effort. But there are always greater heights.

If you have opened it, the light of Nature should manifest ie. you should see a light like moonlight; as certain things are happening to your brain. This signifies the sublimation of shen the result from you feeding jing into the cycle. You then bring shen into the LD into the house of serenity and bring purified qi in to create the immortal seed.

Perhaps some of you might recognize these concepts and point me towards sources and the chinese characters and pronunciation for them. Three currents of will: Yi (Discipline) 意 Wu (Theurgic Will) 無 Jing (Sexual Will). 精

Found the wu 無 I was looking for. It's emptiness. Yi 意, probably intention.

On 6/26/2011 at 8:31 AM, Zhuo Ming-Dao said: I just read Taoist Yoga recently and having listened to your conversation, I was wondering what your thoughts on out-of-body experiences or astral projections in relation to this topic. Specifically, I practice the methods of Robert Bruce and Robert Monroe to initiate a projection into the six realms. Would you say that what is being generated through this practice is the ghost immortal? And if so, will this practice make it more difficult or impossible for me to later attempt to do alchemy? Any advice would be appreciated. Unfortunately, I do not access to a teacher where I currently live. Well, astral projection and techniques in the west, as the complete method are the basis of orders where they keep a connection between the living and dead. Its not a big secret, but people generally don't talk about it. These tecniques are practice for death; but nowadays, people who dont understand the context use them for other things, or they even misperform the technique and walk in their microcosm - thinking it is the astral.

That sounds exactly like the result of the ordeal of the abyss. After death, you can remain as a spirit for ancestor worship in your lineage. In life you were taught, in death you teach - you help ferry the young ones across the abyss. And your lineage, keeps you from dissolving back into the dao through worship or becoming a hungry spirit D:. A game of leapfrog where you can enter the world again. The ghost immortal or depending on the technique - the spirit immortal if you manage to touch the selves beyond your finite mortal comprehension. Some of the magicians have become demons and angels inside grimoires - at the cost of their humanity. Life transference yoga. Interesting book taomeow, gonna take a look at it.

Just another seeker, versed in Western Arts seeking to learn more about topics such as Thunder Magic, etc. Currently reading Taoist Master Chuang and Charles Luk's Daoist yoga. There are quite a lot of parallels I can draw to Western arts.

Yes, this is a huge problem. I'm basically scrambling in the dark for words :P. And I did use that dictionary too before going here which is funny and ironic. It depends if you define theurgic based on the old or new definitions. And some meanings are not written down or used in different contexts, which is why I am asking here to see if any practitioners initiated would know and would be kind to share.

Tbh in magic, things not need to be "real" or "correct" in order to be effective in your work because it is jsut one truth out of many that you use to cause change in the world. Divination is even more finnicky imo. Its good; use whatever that works as long as you have a basis.

I dont think Jing is sexual until it is ignited in that direction. Using breath to ignite the jing non-sexually and transmuting it into qi (vitality) in the xia dantian is part of the microcosmic orbit. But I wrote sexual will in that it is Creative Will. Perhaps you could draw cognates between Jing and Kundalini. This is my understanding.

Which is out of time The real or the fantastic Who can know for sure? Real and Fantastic Are but left behind on the trodden, beaten path