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1) I am unsure how to correctly interpret your meaning with this question. Not sure where it relates? If it was in relation to the kaleidoscope sentence, then the "stoppage" occurred when I stopped performing the methods; most likely related to a Shakti type experience that tapered off. 2) I am not totally able to answer this correctly either, but her goes: Top down seems similar to reiki energy (lighter feeling and more precise in its paths; post-heaven/acquired?) Bottom up seems like Jing (heavy and broad with lots of heat produced; pre-heaven/congenital?) My initial question was related to your first response, "[...] you can simultaneously refine jing and qi into it in the same moment." I believe I am currently doing this style of breathing during my AM routine: "[...] you start from the ' upper dantian ', which is located at the top of your body ,deep inside your skull where 'Yuan Shen ', some kind of Meta-Mind, hides; nourish it from there and [...] many problems, mostly coming from the lower part of your body [...] cured/ solved." My question regarding this style of breathing is are there an visualizations involved? Is there a definite name for this type of practice? Is this more of a Tantric approach?

Curious. It seems I can isolate breathing into head, heart, or Dan tien with hui yin. I can also use the dan tien to initiate breathing through all three, which tends to include "balls" on inside of hands and under feet; although hands are more prominent. Is doing all three along the lines of what your describing? Been playing around with some different breathing. Seems I can breathe in from legs and crown into dan tien with tongue up and exhale a decent amount of heat up my back to my throat, but if I keep the tongue up on exhale, the heat lessens and is much more streamlined. There was a time, way back when, that all this seemed much easier, fluid, and it was like looking through a kaleidoscope when my eyes where closed, but not anymore or at this stage yet. Thanks all for the perspective, time, and words.

Are there names of practices associated with top-down (post to pre) I could look at to better understand the process? The only practice I have found r/t this approach is a Mantak Chia book titled Cosmic Healing 1. Is this a decent map? Current practice includes: Top-down in AM and Bottom-up in PM. Thoughts?

Hello, I am joining after having some experiences and am now confused on what to do or follow. I started the meditating journey out under a "K survivor" and after "falling" from my peak experiences, that occurred while around this now deceased person, am again starting the trail back up the mountain. I believe I am at the steaming the cauldron stage in the dan tien; some mild tensing of diaphragm on long exhales seems to produce a "thick" pressure and heat in dan tien, perineum, legs, and at times ming mien. I presume this to be steaming the cauldron with jing? 8 months ago I was in Japan and a "high level" internal arts practitioner (varjyana yoga, dao, mikkyo, probably others) seemingly shot a jolt of "juice" through my crown and ever since then I can do a different breathe associated with this; inhaling through crown using dan tien with a completely relaxed exhale at a faster rate that produces a "lighter/thinner" heat above dan tien but below abdominal wall; seemingly kidneys. Curious what the differences are between top-down approach vs. down-up approach? Is down-up the "fierce" path and top-down approach less of a nineties version? HA! Any references or avenues to look toward would be appreciated. Gambette!

Hello, I am joining after having some experiences and am now confused on what to do or follow. I started the meditating journey out under a "K survivor" and after "falling" from my peak experiences, that occurred while around this now deceased person, am again starting the trail back up the mountain. I believe I am at the steaming the cauldron stage in the dan tien; some mild tensing of diaphragm on long exhales seems to produce a "thick" pressure and heat in dan tien, perineum, legs, and at times ming mien. I presume this to be steaming the cauldron with jing? 8 months ago I was in Japan and a "high level" internal arts practitioner (varjyana yoga, dao, Tibetan, probably others) seemingly shot a jolt of juice through my crown and ever since then I can do a different breathe associated with this; inhaling through crown using dan tien with a completely relaxed exhale at a faster rate that produces a "lighter/thinner" heat above dan tien but below abdominal wall. Curious what the differences are between top-down approach vs. down-up approach? Is down-up the "fierce" path and top-down approach less of a nineties version? HA! Any references or avenues to look toward would be appreciated. Gambette!