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Most diagrams and books about the meridians only cover the "resumed version" of their paths and extension. For a more detailed explanation I recomend the book "Atlas of Chinese Medicine: Meridians and Collaterals" by Auteroche.

 

Now, on resume: You don't need to connect Ming Men to the Perineum. It is already connected. There are collateral meridians that connect directly the Ming Men, Governor Vessel, Conception Vessel and Kidneys. In fact, there is a collateral that does the complete path of many QiGong practices. I can't really go look into the book now in order to give more details, but it's there.

On 25/08/2023 at 4:47 AM, Taoist Texts said:

it depends. which teacher did you get it from?

 

Many sources, few teachers. Its supposed to be a third-person-point-of-view of daoism and cultivation in general. Absorbing a teacher's view on the subject would undermine its purpose - as I would be propagating a certain school of thoughs' view, not a general view.

On 26/12/2022 at 12:34 PM, Kaihe said:

I read about Du Xinlin (from a book by Baolin Wu), a taoist monk who attained rainbow body in 1988 in Beijing in front of many witnesses and officials. How does the taoist system get there from dantiens, qi accumulation and all the foundational stuff public sources talk about? I understand that the details are / might be secret but I wonder does anyone know?

 

 I'm quite unninterested in discussing if that event is true or false, but I'm interested in giving a brief summary of "how daoism works and what it is about".

 

Sorry if I'm undestanding wrong. That's what you want, right? To know about Daoism in general, not only this story or this book.

 

Anyhow. On this assumption, here's a quick summary:

 

In Ancient China there was a very interesting chain of events. People discovered something the east took quite a lot of time to discover: Deduction of Universal Truths by Observation of Nature and Events.

 

It even came quite close to experimentation and what we call "science", but didn't quite got there. Instead, it went to the complete opposite direction.

 

If in science we seek to separate and isolate little pieces of the world around us to understand some kind of law of nature through rigorously controled experiments, in mystical chinese thinking we try to look at both the bigger and the small pictures at the same time, at the intricacies of how things affect one another, and then taking conclusions.

 

One example would be as follows:

 

A scientist will take a leaf from a tree. It will dry it. Then crush the powder. Then treat it with acids and bases and other chemicals. Then run it through a lot of other processess to try and isolate a certain compound present in that leaf.

 

Then, it will take that compound and start experimenting with it. It will burn it, feed it to lab animals, test its acidity, in summary, learn as much as possible about that little thing. Then, it will make a final judgement about a simple compound found on a simple leaf. It may be the discovery of a new drug or medicine, or just ten years of study and money thrown down the drain. Who knows?

 

That's science.

 

A daoist will look at a leaf. It will notice how it falls from the tree after drying naturaly. Then it will notice how it rots and decays. How worms feed on it. And then it will see how those worms are different from worms that look the same, but eat another kind of leaf.

 

It will observe the tree again. Then other trees. It will look at which animals eat the leaves, and when. It will notice if any animals build nests on those trees. It will know every little detail of a whole forest. During this process, it will make many inferences and come to many conclusions about the many trees and leafs on the forest. It may come with theories about the nature of leafs in general. It may discover that some leaves have medicinal properties. It may discover that some leaves have poison in them. It may discover many, many things. But almost all of them will be inferences, and none a final judgement.

 

Got that all?

 

Well, that's the very basics of daoism. "How to look at things and what we do with what we see".

 

Then, comes accumulation.

 

During years and years of scientific research and after many, many attempts and lots of people involved in the process, books get compiled, drugs produced and technology created.

 

Because lots of people discovered lots of small bits of information on lots of things, and then started compiling that. Then other people took those compilations, tried them out, took their own conclusions and so on and so forth.

 

Well, with Daoism something completely opposite occurs.

 

With the accumulation of lots of people observing lots of things and infering a lot about them, simplicity is what remains.

As science accumulates with clashes and discussions and competition, daoism becomes thinner and smaller.

 

Competing about holistic views of the world just makes it so that a common ground has to be achieved, and that common ground is smaller than the original holistic views.

 

After quite a few millenia of clashing schools of daoist thought, what we are left with are a couple basic concepts:

 

"Everything comes from Nothing" is the most basic one. Also the first one science abhors. But it digress.

Then comes "Everything is Dual". Which science kind of agree on? Kind of.

Then comes "From the combination of Dualities come all phenomena and things in existence". Which science cannot comprehend. It just can't. Because it cannot fanthom things coming from nothing, and therefore abstract things being the origin of concrete things.

 

Anyhow. I digress again.

 

Those three pillars are the very basics of the basics of Daoism. Wu (Emptiness), Yin-Yang (Duality) and the "smaller dao" mentioned by Lao Zi, the "one that can be comprehended" (combination of dualities).

 

All Daoism will share these tree traits. Others come from the many schools of daoist thought.

 

Now, the one thing you have been taking interest on (dao tien, accumulating Qi in the body, etc) come from a couple branches of Daoism, called by the generalist name of the practice they teach - Nei Dan (or Inner Alchemy) and Qi Gong (or "manipulation of Qi").

 

Those are interested in human beings and how they connect to the laws of the world not in the common daoist sense (of morals, behavior and harmonization of self and nature), but in a more... detailed sense.

 

In how bones, blood and breath connect to the movements of the seasons, for instance.

 

In how certain postures and ways of doing things connect with one's consciousness, and how the consciousness connects to empytiness and emotions and desires.

 

And so forth and so on.

 

The most common conclusions reached by the many schools of thought that deal with Qi Gong and Nei Dan are:

 

1 - The human body, awareness and "spirit" are different things and exist in a semi-independent state.

 

2 - There's a way to turn body into awareness, and awareness into spirit. There are also ways to turn spirit into mind and mind into body. And many other cute little tricks.

 

3 - All of that is difficult as f*ck to do for 99,999% of the population, even with proper instruction. So.... good luck with that. Even the "greatest masters of our times" only tap a little into the infinite potential of cultivation.

 

4 - There might (?) be or have been people (if we can call them that) who can, or could, do a lot more than what we see.

 

And that's the gist of it.

 

Accumulating Qi into the lower abdomen through controled breathing, funny poses and mental discipline are techniques to ultimately achieve Body-To-Awareness transformation.

 

The same with building the Dan Tian, raising Qi and turning it into Shen (the last step of this Body-To-Awareness process). Or raising Shen and turning it into Emptiness (Awareness-To-Spirit transformation).

 

And then, once you do that, congratulations, you've given the very first baby step into this world of cultivation!

 

After that you need to draw Spirit from the "Infinite and Indefinite primordial source of all things" in order to turn it into Awareness, and then that Awareness is then used to replenish your Body with energy, vitality and health.

 

Of course, other techniques exist as well. There are those who have help from gods and immortals or ghosts (or so claim to have), and can receive things from the "infinite and indefinite primordial source of all things" without using their bodies as fuel for an inner furnace.

 

Then there's the mix-up and people who do both things and so forth and so on.

 

I guess you got it now?

Imagination is an interesting tool. It would probably form something in your tians, even if just a thought-form. If this thing will be good, bad, benefitial or detrimental.... that's up to be seen.

 

On 25/12/2022 at 5:22 AM, Bgi said:

Pls any tell me how people who practice reiki tummo balance there yin yang

 

From what I managed to understand, Reiki Tummo is quite different from traditional Reiki. As I am not initiated on Reiki Tummo, it would be very far-fetched for me to teach you about it.

 

All I can say is that balance of Yin and Yang is not something directly related to Reiki Tummo. At most, as long as the advertising is true, I can say it would happen once someone reaches the pinnacle of this Reiki system, as a "self-actuallized god" would surely be completely balanced in Yin and Yang.

On 28/08/2022 at 7:22 PM, Cobie said:

Is that 元神 (yuan2 shen2)? 
 

 

I await more channeling sessions to be sure.

 

On 28/08/2022 at 7:25 PM, Cobie said:

What are these? 
 

 

 

Bao refers to the group of sub-studied organs around the genitary tract. Prostate, seminal vesicle, uterous, etc.

 

Bao Zang refers to the Uterous. It is the name given in some obstetrics-specific texts about TCM.

 

Jade Palace refers to a mistical place in the midst of the Bao. It is where the Essence (Jing) merges with the substance (semen or uterous) in order to allow procreation. It is also where it is stored.

 

On 17/10/2022 at 6:29 AM, Timul20 said:

I'd be interested to know what "Yuan" is.  I haven't come across it in my, admittedly, quite superficial, reading and didn't find anything with a Google search.  Desmond, do you have the Chinese ideogram, or is anyone else able to fill in the gaps for me here?  I

 

Feel free to shoot me down here because I'm feeling in the dark but essentially, this seems to be explaining how Shen is condensed down into Jing etc but also how generational karma adversely affects the individual's composition so that when they are born, they are no longer able to manifest their true Ming and that this situation can be remediated through prayer to the Jade Emperor and the Queen Mother of the West.  How does that accord with other's readings?

 

 

 

"Yuan" means Primordial. It is related to all that exists in between two states of existence.

 

There is Yin. There is Yang. There is Yuan Yin and Yuan Yang.

 

Yin and Yang are manifested. Taiji isn't. Yuan Yin and Yuan Yang are the first and underlying manifestations of Yin and Yang before the Changes and Cycles start.

 

You can think of it as "pre-heaven stuff".

 

I already have the second chapter channeled. It does talk about worshipping. I'm not instructed to reveal it yet. I suppose there are things I need to do before doing so.

Dao of Peaches, Chapter 1, Part 1 - Yuan

 

Yuan Shen is the Indefinite Spirit;

It doesn’t divide in five or seven;

Doesn’t inhabit the organs;

It is in the Bao and inhabits the Bao Zhang and the Jade Palace, but isn’t them. 

It can become any

Those who are born have in their time inside the mother’s uterus opened the door to Yuan Shen.

Once the door of Emptiness is closed in childbed, so is closed the door to True Yuan. 

 

So comes Yuan Shen, and so it remains unchanged through all life. 

Unless (one is) rebirthed in its own body, unless it gestates itself

Through the opening of the door to True Yuan

Which only doesn’t takes away life if before is opened the door of Emptiness

It (Yuan Shen) doesn’t change and only wears

Until recurrence

 

Yuan Qi comes from Yuan Shen

It is movement and action, potential

 

Yuan Xue comes from Yuan Qi and the Mother’s Blood. 

It is the first union, and where the mother affects its child

According to what it does and how it lives through its pregnancy

 

Yuan Ye comes from the fetus’ produce

It is excreted and must not return to its interior

Yuan Ye cleans the child’s intestines

And serves as a means to purify the Mother’s Blood. 
 

Yuan Jing comes from Yuan Ye

But its origin is in True Yuan

Once True Yuan becomes Yuan Shen, Yuan Qi, Yuan Xue, Yuan Ye

What remains untransformed and undefined, and so is welcomed and taken to the body

(It) is Yuan Jing
 

All Yuan close and cease being produced

Once there is birth and is cut the cord

Between the mother and the fetus

 

What was gathered is what it will have for all its life

And once it ends, so will end its life. 

 

Yuan is the basis for generation of all else

Once Body, Spirit and Emptiness are cultivated

And before it is opened the door to Emptiness

All that is cultivated comes from Yuan
 

In eating, drinking and breathing

Substances are accrued

Which are purified and transformed

By Yuan

 

At the end of transformation, become correct

But what defines Righteousness

Is Yuan

 

The state of righteousness

Of the souls, energy, blood, liquids and body

Is defined by Yuan

If (one’s) Yuan is impure

It doesn’t promotes long life and good habits

The purification of Yuan

Is the shift of the state of righteousness 

So correct is long-lived and healthy

 

The one with a good Yuan feels pleasure (with) and preserves in itself

The good moods

The good emotions and feelings

The balance of body and of action

 

The one with Impure Yuan feels pleasure (with) and engender in itself

The bad moods

The bad emotions and feelings

The imbalance of body and of action.

 

Good Yuan appears

Once (the) Correct is established

And not left to be decided

By the spirits and ancestors

 

The only ones who can establish the Correct

Are the Queen Mother of the West

And the Jade Emperor

Who establish Correct and Incorrect

For all Beings. 

 

When (one) worships the Queen Mother of the West

And the Jade Emperor

It is removed the Correct established by the Ancestors

And it is established the Correct defined by Deity

 

That is how long life is obtained

Health and balance

And permission to purify Yuan

 

For there is no permission to purify Yuan

Without being established Correct

And Correct can’t be established

By (in accordance to) one’s own will. 

 

It is in worship and cultivation of Correct

Brought by the Dao of Peaches

That purification of Yuan is obtained

 

From it (purification of Yuan) comes bountiful health and long life

And to it (purification of Yuan) is due the arduous work

Of correcting oneself.

I have been granted a Personal Practice space in which to share this work.

 

For those interested, this is the link.

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/forum/631-dao-of-peaches/

This Dao is being given to me in parts and pieces.

 

The notation for understanting what one is reading is as it follows:

 

 

For chapters of the Dao of Peaches:

 

Dao - Chapter - Part

 

Example:

Dao - C1P1

 

Meaning "Dao of Peaches, Chapter 1, Part 1".

 

 

 

For extra content:

 

Auxiliary - Type - Chapter - Part

 

Example:

 

Auxiliary - SG Notes - Chapter 1 - Part 1

 

Meaning "Auxiliary text, Spiritual Guide Notes for the Chapter 1, Part 1 of the Dao of Peaches".

 

 

Types of Auxiliary Texts:

 

SG Notes - Notes from the Spiritual Guide that helped me in the channeling process.

 

CI  - Cultivation Instructions, meaning small notes and points to take care of, meant for those who whish to cultivate the Dao of Peaches.

 

CM - Cultivation Method, the cultivation method that accompanies the Dao of Peaches.

 

TCM - Meaning channeled TCM practices and instructions. I am an acupuncturist myself, and have the needed training, experience and knowledge to apply acupuncture procedures in my clients, as well as to conduct small clinical trials on previously informed volunteers, in order to measure the effectiveness and truthfulness of the channeled esoteric teachings, which is my objective in the future; do not attempt those yourself if you do not have formal training.

This is a work of channeling. 

 

What it means, therefore, is that it isn’t knowledge obtained from studying the classics or the texts of ancient masters. 

 

It is knowledge directly derived from mystical experiences. 

 

It is my desire to be clear, frank and honest about this work. I am a medium, that is, I have contact with spirits. More specifically, a quite ample array of spirits - from those of the dead, to some other kinds and forms of intelligent spiritual manifestation. 

 

My own mediunic abilities are both partially innate and partially developed - there are many religions in my native country that use and deal with mediunity (the quality of being a medium) as a method of spiritual advancement, and I happen to have ingressed in one such religion about six years ago (around 2016). 

 

Much happened, but what was of importance is that, in developing my own abilities as a medium, I became able to allow spiritual guides to possess my body willingly, with varied degrees of intensity of possession. 

 

There is simply “irradiation”, the process through which the guide spirit simply influences one’s mind and body. This is a very subtle ability, and mistakes, especially the ones in which the medium interferes with the spirit’s words or actions, are quite common. It takes a long time to reach a certain degree of mastery in being quiet and letting the spirit do his thing. 

 

On the complete opposite of the spectrum there’s plain possession -  in which the spirit removes one’s control over their own body and mind completely - with or without removing the medium’s consciousness and/or memories in the process. It takes almost no time to be able to be possessed, as a guide spirit or higher degree spirit quite easily removes all forms of barriers and objections from either a willing or unwilling medium, but it also takes a huge toll on one’s body and mind. In order to use this kind of ability without receiving great and/or permanent damage to one's body and mind, extensive preparations, rituals and self-purifications must be carried beforehand.

 

Both extremes of this spectrum are not what I do. What I usually develop my own abilities on is a middle ground - called “incorporação” (“incorporation” in free and literal translation). Both I and the guide spirit reach terms of agreement on how much control I will give, and how much it demands in order to manifest. Some demand more, some demand less. Some I am willing to give myself to more, some I am willing to give myself to less.

 

This ability carries the danger of animism - the manifestation of the medium’s own psychic content on the spiritual communication - but not nearly as great of a risk as merely receiving spiritual irradiation. 

 

It also allows for me to remain incorporated for long periods of time, with very little consequences. Three hours are usually fine to remain in contact with the spirit, and I can still sleep well and wake up rested the next day. Ready to work and usually only needing some special kind of food during the day.

 

In such a state is where I have most of my mystical experiences. My guide spirits are old masters of a number of mystical arts, but most importantly and more in-dept daoist arts and daoism. 

 

Slowly but surely, they have been presenting me the world beyond the spiritual culture of my native country. 

 

So, when I say I have received this Dao of Peaches from the Queen Mother of the West, what I mean to say is that, in a state of “relative possession” from my guide spirits, I have had my mind and consciousness connected to the great goddess, and then received its permission and guidance to channel this Dao. 

 

The words which I here translate from my native language, obviously, I have not heard from the Mother’s mouth. 

 

They have not been dictated to me, word-by-word, by a great Immortal, although I have had the opportunity to meet a couple of them through this same process of “relative possession”. 

 

They have been heard and written by my guide spirits, which then used my hands to write them in physical means.

 

I have received permission and guidance to spread this knowledge. As well as permission and guidance to allow and ask of all of you who have contact with it - please, be not afraid to comment on what I write. 

 

I am not a god, or a very special spiritual being. 

These words did not came from the mouth of a god and imbedded themselves in stone;

They are merely the product of my efforts in achieving blessings and spiritual growth, a task to which I dedicate most of my life at this moment.  

 

Please, be free to read, interpret and comment. 

 

Thank you very much for your time.

Lets say you seek personal power and achieve some degree of power.

 

What happens them?

 

Do you keep seeking power?

 

The power you sought, what does it do to you, and what is the cost of mantaining it?

 

If you seek power because of a personal trauma, need or ilusion, you'll only become more and more engrossed in it.

 

If you seek power with a reason, to get somewhere, then you'll need to be able to use the power you have as a tool.

 

But what can be used to control power?

 

What can be used to submit it, so it will be a tool in your hands?

 

Using power to control your power (like using willpower to control your control over external qigong) will only lead you deeper in this rabbit hole.

 

Something which is not power must be used to control your power.

 

Some people say it is love. Love can indeed control power, but then what controls love?

 

What happens when you are out of love to give ?

 

It is not a good answer, as it will limit your control over your power to a feeling, and feelings are fleeting.

 

A bad day can be your ruin, the ruin of your power/empire or the ruin of those precious to you.

 

I say it is bonding. Having bonds which are clear and precise. Which remain in the face of fleeting feelings, and which are wide and safe. 

 

As long as your bonds keep your power in check, you can have power. 

 

However, what controls your bonds, then?

 

If left for themselves, they will just grow randomly and may become abominations as well....

 

This is a cascade of thought which relates to the nature of checks-and-balances. 

 

Not political ones, but the ones from inside. 

 

The end result is harmony. You can and you MUST have as much power as your own harmony with the world and nature allows to. 

 

Power will be one of the checks-and-balances, one of the Tools which bring you inner balance. 

 

However, in order to achieve this kind of power, there can be no limitating and linear thinking and control.

 

You cannot think exclusively of ways to gain power and how to reach your objectives.

 

Otherwise, you would be being controlled by your thoughts, and then there is no harmony - as your thoughts themselves must be tools to reach balance. 

 

Planning and seeking must come naturaly, without desire. When you need power to regain balance, you must "seek" it and "plan" how to get it in the same way you "seek" your kitchen when you're thirsty, and "plan how to" get a glass of water to quench that thrist. 

 

I believe this is mostly what it means "not to seek power". 

Greetings.

 

I've been getting deeper and deeper into my mystical and religious practices recently, and came across a chance I've taken with much pleasure.

 

It is my belief, after a series of mystical experiences, that my aspiration has been seen, and the Queen Mother of the West has given me the benefit of channeling a Dao.

 

It is called the Dao of Peaches, and it accompanies a cultivation method. Also channeled.

 

As of this moment, I have received only the first part of the first chapter of this Dao.

 

I have as well been permited to share it with others, in order to study, expand comprehension and and bring benefits to all. I cannot say all of it will be shared. It stands to reason that I will follow the goddess' instructions in regards to what should and what shouldn't be shared, if it so happens that something must be kept secret.

 

Can I post this Dao (or, at least, the translation of what I received, since it has been channeled in my native language) somewhere in this forum?

What about its cultivation method? Can it be posted once I have received it?

1 minute ago, cloud444 said:

gods aren't real. 1500 useless religions and a bunch of made up figures to judge me. if there is a creator I hate them, and im glad I won't have to participate in this useless game much longer. we all die and lose everything because of these so called "gods" I would rather not participate here at all because I dont want to give any creator the satisfaction of participating in this shit reality. whoever designed it was clearly not thinking correctly. these human bodies are fragile and useless and cant even keep them selves together. I dont even want to heal my body anymore because it doesn't deseverd to get fixed. if these useless things break down this easily they belong in the trash

 

Well... you see, there's the thing. You are god. You are the creator. You did the world, the trash and yourself.

 

And at the same time, you are not. Gods are beings beyond duality. Beyond "existence" and "not existence". They can exist. The can not exist. They can be something that both exists and doesn't exists at the same time.

 

And that's why I believe you have no idea what a god is and had no mystical experience with one before. Because all of your hatred, all of your "this is all made up shit" well... they can make it be.

 

They can make it be that they do not exist, and that all religions are shit without meaning, and that death is "just the end".

 

But, from personal experience, let me give you advice: It is very, very difficult to earn the benefit of "ceasing to exist after you die".

 

And I don't say you'll go to hell. You can, if you want to. But it is just very hard to cease "being". The whole point of many buddhist doctrines is exactly to do that, to cease "being". To realize emptiness inside of you, and be empty. That's the first step for those who are in a path of enlightment, and it is a hard one. It is not something that regular and simple death can give. It has to be earned.

 

Anyhow. Good luck with your atheistic rebellious "i'm in pain and I hate and dessecrate with my attitude everything you all say is precious and sacred" thing. I've been there, i've done that.

 

Be present a small dose of wisdom from someone who has seen and felt what you're living through: There is a way out. Trashing and screaming and crying about the unfairness of the world doesn't help to get there.

The more you treat the rest of world as being unfair, the less they will feel any remorse in being exactly what you say the are: Unfair, unforgiving and uncaring.

 

Try to accept the existence and presence of your pain, work around it and capacitate yourself to live life, even while in pain. It is bloody difficult, but it is also the first step to have something in your life other than pain.

On 27/06/2022 at 5:01 AM, Lidolon said:

After reading a number of books on Buddhist meditation, I’ve convinced myself of a simple (and probably wrong) analogy between shamatha meditation and a memory leaking computer program: as a simple concentration task absorbs more and more computational power, all other mind routines shut down, till, progressing along the jhanas, even the operating system itself crashes and only the BIOS remains. As the Buddha pointed out, this is most useful, in that it is possible to witness the reboot of the system, which makes experientially clear how much the five khandhas depend on the software and not the hardware.

 

Given the brain neuroplasticity (here I’m going from bad analogy to pure speculation), the repeated reboot of the brain, which should reasonably follow an hardwired pattern, would strengthen the pathway of this standard reactivation of the various mind routines. Since I think chakras are just bodily projections of brain sectors, this pathway could very well be what the yogic tradition call shushumna; in this case, concentration meditation would obtain the same result of a kundalini awakening through the opposite mean (that is, the chakras are not opened, but silenced, and the path between them strengthened as they are turned on again and not by artificially overstimulating it). The critical point here is that the reboot is automatic, so the practitioner has no choice on which neural path is reinforced, it is determined by the structure of the brain itself.

 

So, to end these ramblings, this toy-model poses one serious question. Taking the neural pathway of mind reboot as the standard (since it emerges automatically from the practice of the jhanas), are the plethora of energetic techniques in existence (Kundalini, Kriya, Vajrayana, Neidan, etc.) really able to stimulate it with enough precision? For sure they act as an active stimulation of certain neural paths, but how can one be certain they are really stimulating the correct ones? 

Even more radically, is it true that all these techniques aim at replicating, from the other side and hopefully in a quicker fashion, the physical (neural) transformation caused by samadhi, or each of them are reinforcing different brain processes, and which are the differences?

 

I hope someone will humor me, even for saying I got everything wrong, since I’m quite at a loss to find a conceptual way to understand all cultivation phenomena, as they all seem fundamentally similar behind their superficial differences.

 

You're comparing multiple systems with a modern physicallist worldview. They will both look like the same thing, and also mean completely different things, simply because they do not talk about the same stuff at all.

For instance, let's compare Ancient Chinese Anatomy and Modern Anatomy.

 

In Ancient Chinese Anatomy, the Lungs where drawn as these "leafy" pieces of meat inside your ribcage. Quite different from modern lung anatomy., which clearly state that the lungs are those two big red meat bags on the sides of your heart.

 

Ancient Chinese Anatomy

 

 

Modern Anatomy.

 

Now, where the ancient chinese stupid enough not to know how to differentiate "true lungs" between people's meats?

 

Most probably not. Because in reality, there is no clear distinction. It is fabricated through international agreements and modern academic discussion.

 

I won't post it here since it would be too graphic, but a real intact human body doesn't have those beautiful, "clean and shaved" red sacks of meat inside it. There is conjunctive tissue. There is connective tissue. There are the pleural sacks, there is a lot of stuff that modern anatomy simply says "oh, that's not the lung, it's an acessory tissue which is right next to the lung".

 

Ancient chinese doctors couldn't give a damn about the details modern anatomists have. Lung, pleural sack, a lot of nearby connective tissue.... all of that was simply categorized as "lung".

 

That kind of detail makes a LOT of difference, because the whole concept of what an entire organ is, is different from one system of medicine to the other. And that means the whole physiology, medicinal thinking and diagnosys is different as well.

5 hours ago, Eden said:

Is there a limit to how much Chi you can compress into the lower dan tian? An example: I am experiencing some free floating anxiety from doing some mantra or asana work, like too much energy in the system and its causing some fear or anxiety. I can compress the energy into the DT, sort of stabilize it there into a chi ball... Im just curious if there a limit to how much you can store there, and what the best way would be to lock in place there so it doesnt come back up to the head to create anxiety. Thank you

 

My view on QiGong is one in which Qi is a real thing. A substance on the body. So, yes, there is a limit. It increases with time and practice, and it can quite easily be felt once you feel the literal sensation of having a full DT. If you try to put any more in there, you'll feel pain.

 

That being said, I wouldn't go and just compress any kind of Qi into my DT. The best method to avoid getting anxiety if the Qi in your abdomen "escapes" is to store the right kind of Qi (either Yuan Qi or at least Zheng Qi).

 

I know that most schools teach people to store any form of Yang Qi, but that's... quite unbalanced. If you store healthy and refined Qi which has gone through multiple purifications, it will be a blessing for it to "escape"... because it will calm you down, bring well-being and balance for your body, mind and souls.

On 22/06/2022 at 2:16 AM, cloud444 said:

ya sorry but that sounds insane. and i dont pray to any gods because i hate them all . im glad your trying to help. but that sounds dangerous

 

Gods usually don't care if you hate them.

 

That said, good luck them. Depression and hatred are quite useless to alleviate your pain though. Do consider that you may need to give up on your hatred and other rebellious behavior in order to find freedom from pain.

 

That or start chugging opioids. I'm pretty sure you can get some Vicodin or even Morphine, since you have chronic peripheral neuropathy.

Once someone decides to be a Master, they are not gods. They are only capable enough in a field to teach others.

 

However, their own teaching methods and means may be harmfull to those who are not ready to be under them. The most accomplished masters need the least from their disciples, and can turn even a bafoon in a sage.

 

The least accomplished masters need the more from their disciples, and trying to guide someone who isn't "whorty" (is in harmony with their own way and means) may bring estagnation or even injury to those he tries to guide.

 

Between the greatest masters and the novice and inexperienced masters, there is a huge array of more or less accomplished ones. "Being ready" as a student means merely to find the one who is the most adequate for you. Which will also be looking for you - as if he is the most adequate master to you, them you are the most adequate pupil for him.

The self-imposed punishments one learns to give themselves in case of being wrong. It may lead to such intense self-punishing or servilience that it risks one's life.

On 02/07/2020 at 11:26 PM, cloud444 said:

this is a long story, and im looking for help or anyone that can send me in the right direction. Im going to sum It up as short as I can. When I was younger I abused alcohol and weed, and was always tired. Really draining my Jing at a young age. Later on I went through benzo withdrawal trying to get off pills I really drained the Jing there as well. Where I am now. I had a very very bad head injury that lead me to develop a minor type of epilepsy, then I had to go on more shitty seizure pills that drain yin and Jing. Western medicine wouldn't help me and after a year I did meditation, deep breathing and yoga without knowing what I was doing ( thinking I would heal my body ) My kundalini one day arose and I had a lot of psychic phenonema, dreams of snakes, out of body experience and too much prana or whatever in the body. Once you open this up it won't go away I soon discovered, But the snake only risen half way through my chakras and not piercing the heart.  so as long as I did masturbation it would go down and stay away. . Finally the snake went down and all my symptoms went away after about 4 months of grounding. I am now left with a frail damaged body, with no energy,. Low kidney energy and it literally hurts to get an erection in my lower back, all my joints ache and crack. The only way to keep the kundalini away is too masturbate at least once a week and it will stay away, if I dont then ill start to have dreams of snakes and bliss at my spine and it will start to raise again, but if I DO masturbate ONLY once within a week or so then ill get extreme bad pains in why lower back due to low Jing/ kidney energy and I kept doing this because I felt sooo scared and just sick of living life and not wanting to go through a kundalini awakening while being so ill. I kept doing this for 2 years after it awakened but basically laid in bed. Eventually because of all the emotional stress, my yin Jing or yin went too low and my back pains were so bad it damaged all my nerves permanently. I now have constant, numbness tingling, burning in all my limbs. In Chinese medicine its called bi or Wei syndrome and it permanent and for life and its getting worse starting to make my muscles weak. SO my situation now is this, very low Jing and kidney yin, damaged kidney essence and damaged meridians, it is constant and stuck in bed and the neuropathy is growing and now affecting my limbs as well and my eyesight. Also if I dont masturbate at all my kundalini tries to raise again and I dont want to go through it. IM NOT abusing my sexual energy, its just my kidney energy is so low that I cant even do it once in a couple weeks. Im so screwed because I cant dig my way out of this. I worked SO hard to try and be healthy and heal and balance my body, but now that this Wei syndrome or bi syndrome has started because of all the meridians being damaged and damaging my nerves I dont have It in my to move forward. I consulted with some Chinese medicine people and they say that I can't reverse the nerve problem. So whats the point in even going through with the awakening if im going to be like this forever. I avoided the awakening because before it happened I had suffered for 7 years and just wanted freedom. Being slapped with an awakening and to go through more hell I would have rather died, but now my situation is even way worse. I feel helpless and my body is degernating with nothing I can do about it. I try to be positive and work towards fixing it but whats the point if its degenerating faster then I can fix

 

I usually don't recommend this to people, as it is dangerous and may lead to death.

 

However, I suppose you are an exception to the rule.

 

Pray to Kali. Pray to Kalki. Shiva and Rudra.

 

Sleep everynight at 10pm, no least no more.

 

Keep your diet and other stuff as you already do them.

 

There is no need to offer libation or pooja. Keep it simple. Say devotion mantras and be respectfull. You can build a ligan out of clay and offer water to it.

 

Most of the symptoms should disappear in three weeks time.

 

At that time you'll feel a great passion. And you'll then prepare a ritual.

 

Prepare yourself for it. You'll ask for the blessings and protection of the gods and goddesses of destruction and renewal. And you'll go through the cremation fields of your mind.

 

Buy sandalwood incense, use white clothes for two days prior to the ritual. Buy three candles - they must have a duration of at least 8 hours each.

 

Now, you can do it sober or you can do it with the help of psychedellic mushrooms.

 

By doing it sober, you'll suffer more. But the risk of death is smaller.

 

By doing it with properly prepared amanita muscaria mushrooms you'll suffer less, but the risk of death is greater.

 

The method of preparation is to lightly cook the caps of the mushrooms in an open oven (in nature you would do it next to a fire in a ceramic pot). The temperature must not go beyond 80ºC.

 

You can find more details (time of preparation, how to find real amanita muscaria, etc) in especialized foruns in the internet.

 

Once the mushroom caps are prepared, prepare a mix of gee and honey. Gently cover the mushrooms with the mixture, and offer them to the gods. (Kalki, Kali, Shiva, Rudra). You can light one of the three candles and let it next to the candle. Light one of the sandalwood incenses.

 

You can also look for Durga, if you feel the need to do so. Avoid Indra or Bhraman. It is not the time for them. You can seek reffuge in Krisna or Visnu, may it become too intense.

 

The dosage is 3 dried grams.

 

You'll ingest the mushrooms at your usual sleep time. Light the remaining two candles. And then pray.

 

It will be hell. But it will release you from hell.

I know there is supposed to be some deeper meaning to this post's title, but all I can think when I look at it is: "Well, they surely can't understand something if they are dead, can they?".

 

"Qi only on his lower abdomen" is such a misuse of the term. It is literally impossible to only have Qi in one's lower abdomen. All forms of Qi used for cultivation must pass through one's entire body from time to time. No Qi that estagnates on one place and doesn't move is a healthy form of Qi useable for cultivation. Only cold-dampness Xie Qi has such characteristic.

A plethora of ways to elude the mind while grounding the spirit with experiences and sensations that promote spiritual advancement.

More especificaly, ways embedded in chinese culture and history, traditionaly lived with quite a bit of fanaticism and usually kept or destroyed by bloodshed.

 

So... the same old.

 

 

Ok. Being a little bit less of an asshole here.

We cannot define with precision what neigong/internal alchemy is because it was a free practice, created and practiced by isolated individuals/small groups with only their own viewpoints on philosophical and metaphysical matters as basys.

 

There is a "common ground", yes. The focus on the Dao and some other esoteric elements that accompany the chinese culture ever since before the Han Dynasty, with roots as deep in the times of legends as the gods will have them. But those themselves are still quite loosely connected, since it boils down to a difuse array of mystical experiences, interpretations and creations by thousands of people of many worldviews and backgrounds, and not to a single unified doctrine.

 

If you take a certain branch of neigong, then it will be more precise and more easy to define. But to define the whole thing is... quite complicated. It is just too vast.

Qi is not the physical body and many spiritualist religions would even consider it to be a part of one's soul, not physical matter.

 

Daoism does say one must work to purify their body.... AND soul AND spirit, not only the body.

 

There are many types of Qi, and some are even more subtle than the more dense souls.

 

There is pollution to one's Soul as much as there is to one's Qi.

 

Qi is considered to be Yin, not Yang.

 

One's Yang include the Souls and Qi.

 

One's Yin include Blood and Marrow.

 

Purifying one's Yin is something done much latter at cultivation, after purifying one's Yang. Not because it is impossible to purify the Yin first, just because it is WAY harder and WAY more dangerous to purify one's Yin without a pure Yang to help in the process.

 

And so on.

 

Careful not to project your own desires and ideas upon Daoism and its practices. If you're searching for a doctrine that says "work with your body to achieve spiritual purity", go for it. There's plenty of Yoga and esoteric Martial Arts around which can help you with that.

 

Just not neigong or qigong. On those, body, breath and mind must work togheter. Not only the body.

Be careful with visualization. It is very easy to become entangled in imagination instead.

Will is always bound by either Desire or Nature. It is its birthplace, its origin.

 

There is no Will that comes from nothingness. Therefore, there is no Will without a mother, a father, a Master.

 

All Free Will is only illusion. Illusion of Freedom illusion of unlimited power. And so is all form of Chaos. For it also has a Mother, it also has a Master.

One's True Will is not a tool. It is not a mission or a state of being. Is the basys of one's right to exist on reality. It is never lost; And it cannot be claimed as well.

 

"Thou hast no right but to do thy will..."

 

In the world of men, one can live beyond the Rights that are given to them. But on the world of the divine, there is no escaping the bonds of one's own Rights and Diligences.

 

Everyone. At all times. Is fullfilling their own True Will.

 

All discussion on True Will is and forever will be an attempt of the Mind to grasp what is Divine. And to obtain knowledge of one's True Will is only to build a mirror in the mind, on an attempt to emulate its transcedental nature.

 

Such Mirror can be a blessing or a curse. If it binds Desire, then it is a Curse. If it inflammes one's own Passion, then it is a Blessing.

 

Carefull not to bind yourself with the shackles of Reason. Magick is beyond it.