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I was told by my teacher that going into full lotus is a state of mind and attainment. That full lotus is not just about a certain way of sitting but the manifestation of a particular state. Sitting in full lotus can help you cultivate the golden elixir but it has a double meaning . The golden state of realization where yin and yang is balanced. To manifest the lotus of enlightenment. My teacher is from a lotus tradition. Thoughts opinions?

http://lotushouse.weebly.com/the-art-of-meditation-book-45.html https://books.google.com/books?id=t5pZaCTJX3oC&pg=PR12&lpg=PR12&dq=gold+lotus+immortal&source=bl&ots=HB5rwlzKRX&sig=rwGjxC0-tMomUEK4-VbJaNpBnBg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=aFLtVKGWJrHjsASLhYCIBQ&ved=0CEEQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=gold%20lotus%20immortal&f=false Any opinions or thoughts on Gold immortals?

Ending off where u start is center or Zhong. Center is represented by earth. A stone is earth and thus has golden earth energy.

Dragons chase pearls and the pearl is wisdom. Mountains represent wisdom as they are "earth going to heaven" Earth is yellow mountain according feng shui is in the house of earth and shares the same color. Mountains can be considered earth dragons. In alchemy also referred as the dragons pearl of the golden earth pill.

Pyramidalcow, Mudfoot was quoting me. All authentic practices let one emit light at some point. Shaolin was a full on buddhist temple they had tummo methods and so forth. There are also records of kung fu masters reaching rainbow body they were known as the Wu Dragons. All of nature has a golden aura. For earth is the balance of yin and yang where this balance can thrive. Infact this is why the Tibetan Gelugpa Buddhist (yellow hat) wear yellow hats to represent the energy of the earth.

It means more than one thing....but in my practice its visible. Im not guessing I have the practice...

Yes to both. But for the horse stance it has to be done at a certain height so it correlates to earth chi. A low horse stance correlates to fire energy and a high horse stance correlates to water energy. Horse stance from lowest to highest fire element (lowest) metal element earth element heaven element water element (highest almost standing) The golden energy is more euphoric than blissful.

No no its fine I dont mind talking to some extent about it. Actually all authentic neigong practices should have the practitioner emitting light at some point. My practice is buddhist and came from shaolin it was brought to shaolin so the monks could protect and they turned it into internal kung fu. This practice lets one emit gold light as internal power. Its not a by product of the training its what you are literally cultivating. This practice in time will natrually create a halo around the practitioner;s head. This represents attaining the golden lotus. This golden energy is the perfect combination of yin and yang it is the core vibration and it represented by earth. It's direction is center when you cultivate this energy is goes right to the ldt. Infact just being on the earth strengthens and charges your golden energy. Some kung fu practitioners refer to it as the buddhas palm and so forth but it actually goes by another name but yes this alchemy was "weaponized". Shaolin is very powerful. So I like gengmenpai and all of that but shaolin has much more powerful and rare stuff.

My point in posting the above comment that you quoted me from is that there very powerful sects and rare practices out there other than mopai and it is for this reason that one should find a teacher.

The revelation of Chang Zhang Feng was thus. That earth energy becomes metal and metal energy comes up from the earth and manifests as a mist which become white clouds. These white clouds become charged by heaven/sky chi. These clouds turn black(water) and come this water comes to earth as rain as rain has a higher concentrate of heaven/sky chi. This rain water first hits mountain which is earth this type of chi coming to earth causes thunder. Thunder ignites the fire which goes back to earth. I could go on and on about this. Water moved in the pattern of earth..... Was his take on ru lai buddha's teachings...

Earth is very important is more than just yin just as heaven is more than yang. Earth is yin because it supports all buts it's actually the all the perfect combination of yin and yang. An is represented by gold. This is one of the many revelations of ru lai buddha. It is all Zhongyang (center) for center is the middle for it is neither yin or yang. Just as heaven tiankong relates to the sky this also has a connection to mingkun as when we are young we have a higher amount of sky/heaven chi in us and lost that as we get older. This heaven chi qi comes into us via the mingmen as heaven decides destiny... Earth according to the wuxing is literay the balance of yin and yang and is represented by the yin yang symbol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Xing

What and the shaolin monk at shaolin temple wasnt ! god ur funny...

This is why you need a master. Otherwise you will never really learn. This thread was started because someone thought they were making progress but actually had qi deviation. Yes mopai is powerful but so are other sects. This is why I say find a real teacher. Or you could spend years of your life under a misunderstanding..... It takes years to attain something and even longer to actually understand it. So how can one mix and match arts together that are very deep if one hasnt mastered it truly and if the art is authentic and real why mix it and if it wasnt real why add it to the mix in the first place..... There are powerful sects out there whether they be buddhist or taoist or so forth.

Yeah he did I skyped with him almost every night for a while. He helped my ldt alot.

Yes me too. My teacher was raised in hong kong and trained from a very young age by his father and grand father. My sifu attained the inner thunder zhen qi in his dantian when he was 7yrs old!!!

Ah good. Knowledge is much but to understand the essence or the marrow of it is much harder. All one needs is one good art and for the master t be honest with them.

InfoLad, I see that your into western science and that is good. but Please get into Feng Shui. Which deals with the transmutation of chi. Chi transforms thru out the day thru the 8 forces being able to feel this transmutation process as the day progress is very good. Feng Shui goes deep to creating spiritual barriers to dealing with the spirit world to taoist magic and so forth. Knowing the transmutation of chi and how it affects the tao and harmonizing with it is feng shui. A Feng Shui master can step into a area and can feel that energy imbalance and tell you that the metal energy is conflicting with the wood energy and so forth.

It is! My teacher got me into feng shui and the i ching. He told me id never understand chi if I didnt understand feng shui....

Horse stance can be done differently depending on the art your doing. If your art is fire based then you would want to do a deep horse stance. If it is heaven based a high horse stance. and so forth. You see every style of kung fu works with a different force in the bagua. When the kung fu master adjusts your stance he is actually attuning you to this force. So your building up the right type of force.

In the neikung book Kosta wrote he gives 3 standing meditations. What im curious about is if he did those on a regular basis in his own personal practice.

Mabu builds the internal strength, clears the meridians, fills the vessels, builds a connection to the earth, increases and corrects the chi flow, strengthens the yi, norishes the bones and kidneys. It is a very good beginning practice.

Yes very good point. I have also heard from kung fu masters that building up the chi in the 8 vessels is required before storing chi in the ldt, because the chi in the ldt will leave and go to the vessels to fill them up. So in kung fu sects they make you start in in mabu. Back in ancient china real kung fu training didnt begin until your sifu felt the chi coming out of your hand like water. This is how it was for the creator of Yiquan when he was a boy training under his sifu.

Zou Huo Ru Mo is qigong deviation. A imbalance in the chi due to incorrect practice. My suggestion is to try another art with a teacher who can fix you if need be.

Taichi is a beautiful art. It went thru alot to survive with Mao Zedong and everything the chen and yang families had to do what they could so they could survive. I looked at David Dorian Ross taichi form and what I noticed was a lack of richness and yi in the moves. When I watch videos of Cheng Man Ching doing taichi I can feel and to some extent see his chi when he moves from posture to posture. By richness I mean radiant chi field and I dont see nor feel that with mister ross. He does his taichi too much like a contemporary wushu form...