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I`ve been inspired by this thread, and am now halfway through reading the second edition of the book.  He has some startling insights, really wonderful.

 

Thinking I`ll give the process a go.  One thing though, I gather that part of it involves immersing yourself in warm water, like a bath?  (Haven`t gotten to that part of the book yet.)  That might be challenging as I don`t have a bathtub or access to one.  Are baths an essential part of the process?

I wouldn't worry about it.

 

Good luck and keep us updated!

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I`ve been inspired by this thread, and am now halfway through reading the second edition of the book.  He has some startling insights, really wonderful.

 

Thinking I`ll give the process a go.  One thing though, I gather that part of it involves immersing yourself in warm water, like a bath?  (Haven`t gotten to that part of the book yet.)  That might be challenging as I don`t have a bathtub or access to one.  Are baths an essential part of the process?

Well at the end of the day, the process is about dropping your egoic mental defenses and facing every emotionally-charged moment naked and defenselessly.  His specific 10-week protocol is a way to help you attain that ability, but is really just a means to that end.  I mean, if his protocol was THAT ironclad, then he would not have ever decided to modify it later... ;)

 

I did follow his procedure basically to the letter (albeit busily) for 10 weeks, just to be safe.  But I still didn't really get my breakthrough until much later on my own terms unintentionally through my own portal.  Which also led me to my own other realizations not discussed in his book...

 

So YMMV too, but I think the key here is that he IS definitely pointing you in the right direction - no matter how YOU get there.  All too often, psychology and emotions get completely short shrifted in spiritual technological how-to manuals.  But, they are actually a huge missing link to our spiritual selves.  Which is why his work is actually so spiritually authentic and essential.

 

It is simple, natural, powerful, and direct...just like the Dao. B)

 

I think if you read his book, watch his videos, and do his process (even if not exactly to the letter), then you are laying all the groundwork to get there somehow whenever you are ready to crack.  And once the seeds are planted in the back of your mind, they will likely germinate eventually. 

 

At this point, I can go into that mode at will, even though I still hover around in the mental space a lot.  Especially when performing ordinary tasks or posting on here a lot, lol.  Whereas residing in my "egoless" space all the time would be a little tiring at this point.  But if I actually want to resolve something within myself, I would drop my defenses and lay myself bare.

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Hi Liminal luke!

 

In his Q&A's (not online anymore) Michael Brown advised that if no bathtube is available to use a shower (maybe that is even in the book) and shower over your chest area. But bathtube is more powerful, but for the beginning it should work with the shower pretty well.

 

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Yes he says you can use a shower if that is all is available. I am on the water sessions at the moment myself, i think the bath aspect may help you go deeper but i think a more important aspect is your commitment and willingness to feel on the level of body sensation.

 

Also Michael Brown recommends doing the process three times, so it might be possible in a future round to use a bath.

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Thanks everyone!  I just started today.  In retrospect, I`m realizing my question, anxiety really, about not having a bathtub was just my "mental body" throwing up resistance to the process: I don`t have a bathtub therefore I can`t do it right and shouldn`t do it at all.

 

I still hope to be able to do the full immersion at some point because it sounds powerful, but for now I`ll trust that things will work out as they are supposed to for me.

 

This moment matters.

 

LL

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