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#33 Ormus

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 12:41 PM

Can we know who is Lama of Secret Buddhism,what is their lineage and history?

 

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#34 Kar3n

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 01:00 PM

Can we know who is Lama of Secret Buddhism,what is their lineage and history?

 

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There is no lineage from the recognized Buddhist tradition or system of beliefs and practices that I have been able to find.

 

Here is a little info on the author. I have not researched and compared enough to say it is all 100% factual.

http://darkbooks.org...ook_description

https://en.wikipedia...hip_Association

 

The following quote is from the PDF in the OP.

 

Brief biography of the author-Trieu Phuoc

Born in 1948 in Tra Vinh Province. Graduated elementary school in Tra Vinh.

Age 11 to 17: Attended boarding school at LaSalle Mission (Mossard Thu Duc), graduated Brevet Elementaire.

Age 17 to 20: attended boarding school at Dalat LaSalle Mission (College D’Atran) graduated Baccalaureat II (Baccalaureat de l’enseignement secondaire).

Age 20 to 21: drafted in the armed forces and discharged as Navy First Lieutenant.

Age 22 to 25: Graduated Bachelor of Laws from Faculty of Law, Saigon University of Law (Public International Law major)

Age 25 to 27: French language teacher.

Age 28 to 29: strict vegetarian for two years, meditate and practice Mat Tong (Secret Buddhism) and study various religions (Buddhism, Catholicism, Hinduism, Theosophy, Caodaism, Hòa Hảo Buddhism...) Research extensively on secret sects in Vietnam.

Age 30: propagate Mat Tong. Exorcize evil spirits in Vietnam.

Resettled in the United States at the end of 1981 under Orderly Departure Program (ODP).

1982: wrote five series of articles on the mystical phenomena in Viet Nam for Trang Den newspaper.

1983: published periodically numerous Mat Tong prayer books (sutras): First, second and third volumes; propagated mysticism in the US and other countries.

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1981-2006: settled and resided in Colorado (US) for 25 years. 

http://vutruhuyenbi....dition-2008.pdf


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#35 SeekerOfHealing

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 01:01 PM

@Ormus 1/ Old Guru first met with The Venerable Abbot, head of the Cambodian Buddhists monasteries (Revelations from God); whom he had not known before. The Abbot at first sight of Old Guru had exclaimed: It's the son of God! Meanwhile old Guru's purpose of the visit was simply to ask for a divination from the Abbot whether Old Guru's going abroad was favorable or not. By then Old Guru had not started to cultivate secret Buddhism yet. 2/ Venerable Thich Vien Duc, Old Guru had met Venerable Thich Vien Duc a few times and received Buddhist sutras and the secret seal. One day The Venerable pointed out to Old Guru that the mole on his forehead was the mark from the Buddhas of Ten Directions. Every time Old Guru visited Venerable TVD, he used to make offerings of gold taels (Chinese gold weight unit). Besides the scriptures and seal, Old Guru did not learn anything about mysticism from Venerable TVD. (Further reading: Meet the "Living Buddha" in this world) 3/ Venerable Thich Pho Ung - Following the visit to Venerable Thich Pho Ung (TPU) Old Guru realized that the Super World had commissioned him to check up on Venerable TPU goodness and the Venerable had apparently failed the Ego test by cursing Old Guru (imprecating and wishing Old Guru dead) when Old Guru did not kow tow to him like his followers did. As a result The Venerable had been sanctioned shortly after the event. (Further reading: The Ego of high monks*) 4/ Shaman Pham Cong Trieu was 87 years old at the time Old Guru met him. Old Guru had met him 2 times. On the first visit, the Shaman performed the magic needle insertion to Old Guru's forearm which scared his companion and the latter had opted out of further learning. On the second visit, Old Guru went alone and this time Sir PCT had transmitted all of his invisible powers (in the forms of Southern School Yantras and magic formula) to Old Guru. Old Guru journey to sir PCT had been a tough one, being packed in the crowded bus like sardines in a can and going long distance on a bumpy road. On the return trip it was dark with heavy rain, and surrounded by desolated field, Old Guru had to wait under some shabby house's front porch, cold and wet until the morning in order to catch the bus. And as tradition dictated Old Guru had offered gold to show his appreciation. 5/ Mr Ba Coolwater - His name derived from his using water in exorcisms ritual. On that day he was performing an exorcism and Old Guru was there. When Mr. Ba received the Divine energy through his body, his face flushed very red. He rolled his eyes and suddenly pointed at Old Guru and shouted: You! water buffalo nostrils monk!. Old Guru understood that the Deities spoke through Mr. Ba, re-enacting a scene from the "Romance of the three Kingdom" when the short tempered Zhang Fei addressed Kongming Zhuge Luong as monk with water buffalo nostrils when the latter fooled him into doing battle alone. This was a hint to Old Guru that he is as talented as Kongming. 6/ Lady Son Ngoc Dieu, over sixty years old, vegetarian mystic has the ability to look into the spiritual root of a person. She received a revelation that Old Guru was Vimalakirti Buddha incarnation. (Further reading: (Revelations from God) 7/ Meeting with the incarnation of Master Minh Dang Quang. During the meeting with a young religious practitioner who was respected by his elders as their Master's incarnation, Master MDQ spoke through him expressing to Old Guru his joy to talk to "The Living Buddha". (Further reading: Meet the "Living Buddha" in this world) 8 and 9/ Meeting the disciples from the Eighteen Arhat Sect and Sir Haibadong Sect. One had astral traveling to Heaven where he received the Magic Sword and Jade diamond seal on Old Guru's behalf and the other one was revealed the names of the sword and seal as well as the magic invocation mantras that go with the two sacred items. (Further reading: JADE DIAMOND SEAL AND LUC YEM 'S SWORD) 10/Sir. Sau, Head of Eighteen Arhat Sect. During a visit to Sir Sau, Old Guru stood before his altar and made salutations Mudra (guided by the Buddha's force) as Sir Sau was watching him from the back. When Old Guru's Mudra hand went behind his back, the Mystic, as if recognizing the Mudra hastily pleaded: Could you please give this very poor man some blessings...! From that Old Guru knew that it has been revealed to the Mystic that Old Guru had many blessings. The salutation ended and sir Sau handed over all the yantras of the Eighteen Arhat to Old Guru. 11 / The famous Chimdada - The Cambodian monk, head of his monastery in Cambodia (Further reading: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>). After receiving the Initiation rite from Old Guru he handed over a thick stack of Yantras he had gotten from the Cambodian Royal Library (CDD being Prime Minister's Hunsen 'bosom friend'). Those were in regular paper size, and served every needs of people. Later on, Old Guru had burnt them all. CDD had the revelation about Old Guru as a great man with great virtue, who is foot-lose and fancy free but people respected and listened to his words. 12 / Before going to the US, Old Guru had given the Initiation Rite to a mystic practitioner of the "Hong Mao" whose name he had forgotten. Later on, an acquaintance of Old Guru came to the US and told Old Guru he met that Hong Mao practitioner, and that the latter had been going around telling people: " Since the Master had given me the Jade Emperor's Seal, I was healing people with all kinds of ailments. It was exhausting for me to answer to so many calls. So tired but veryr happy." And many more of such revelations, but it's not necessary to list them all here... Old Guru's Teachings: The Celestial's law does not tolerate impersonation of rank and file, self divine status proclaiming, or self-appointed divine mission... Any one doing so will suffer capital punishment and this is what "A Koan (riddle) about Divine Mission" was about. The principle of common sense is that one cannot buy and wear the ensign of General armorial, parading in the street to fool others without being arrested sooner or later for criminal impersonation. Any forgery or fraud such as the making or using fake documents, counterfeit money or fake gold will be sanctioned according to the levels and types of violations. Counterfeiting is a criminal offense, punished by imprisonment and fines. Besides the revelations through the mystics and divination, Old Guru has proven his supernatural powers and ranking in Heaven's realm through the numinous initiation rites experienced by people from all faiths which showed the deities' support for Old Guru. Furthermore Old Guru's disciples also has Deities' support to perform miraculous Initiation Rites. Old Guru's seeking the Dharma is an example for his disciple to follow. With his super mind he has discovered hidden metaphysical principles, systematized Secret Buddhism teachings, and successfully taught the intangible to the public through long distance Initiation ceremony, something no one has ever done before; And that is because secret Buddhism has always been secret, and accessible for the chosen few monks, the practice has been relying on faith not logic and reason, no one could give logical explanation or prove the esoteric as a reality like Old Guru had done. Not just a Metaphysical Adept, Old Guru has deep knowledge about all matters of human life and social problems which helps to bring a balanced life on earth, physical and material and paradise for the soul in the after life. His teaching's method is always objective, scientific having no place for superstition and euphemism. In regards to Revelations, visions from either religious leaders or Secret Buddhism mystics, Old Guru taught us to always wait and check out its accuracy. He himself has been very cautious when receiving revelations about his greatness instead of feeling honored or exalted, preferring substance to empty fame. Such disposition and wisdom have enabled Old guru to peacefully and successfully spread Celestial Teachings through the decades.
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#36 Kar3n

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 01:06 PM

Got a link, Seeker?

 

I'd be interested to read that from the source if you don't mind.

 

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#37 Ormus

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:49 PM

Looks like Old Guru is realy powerfull .I got impression that he combine Mahayana and Theravada Buddhism along Secret Esoteric Buddhism.

Does this Buddist school teach Immortality and formation of Yang Shen?

To me they look more as Magical and Ritual path.

 

Is there members in Europe that you know?

 

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#38 johndoe2012

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 06:16 AM

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Edited by johndoe2012, 15 January 2017 - 03:21 AM.


#39 SeekerOfHealing

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 03:13 PM

 

Looks like Old Guru is realy powerfull .I got impression that he combine Mahayana and Theravada Buddhism along Secret Esoteric Buddhism.
Does this Buddist school teach Immortality and formation of Yang Shen?
To me they look more as Magical and Ritual path.
 
Is there members in Europe that you know?
 
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He does not combine but go beyond those traditions, you get personal teacher (buddha) to teach you whatever you practice in your altar. It's comes as strong energy or lights, or various manifestations, moves your body (but not into trance) and do many things. Is worth try because it will give your guidance after death I think it's easier to cultivate after death if you have spiritual guide then bother much with this body and mind which is very limited and trapped in taji.

but it's not easy path, you need to be aware of everything because you will be tested after test you spirit will be more "light" or enlighten so to speak.

Is more related to mysterious religions where the spirit is ascending thru various practices. I still discovering it and experiencing fully day after day to see what is that really but the one thing I know - it's works.
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#40 Ormus

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 03:28 PM

Is this lineage of Buddhism work on production of Yang Shen or Diamond Body or something else is finnal aim?

What is better initiation in person or self-initiation?

Is it safe?

 

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 04:35 AM

No, buddhist consider yang shen as just another apparition. In esoteric buddhism there are 3 bodie which unions related to buddhahood it's beyond all extremes and qualities of mortal/immortal.

It's not sect which will convince you to what is safe or what is not - it's like phone you learn to use it, they way you use makes it safe or unsafe.

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 04:55 AM

Does thay produce Dharmakhaya Body?

 

Please explain what 3 bodys they unite?

We know that forming Yang Shen and realising your Yuan Shen is the same as seeing your true face and formation of Dharmakhaya Body in Buddhism.

 

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#43 SeekerOfHealing

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 05:29 AM

Dharmakaya body is immortal and empty = yang shen is still consider a body or form, dharmakaya is formless body. 3 bodies unite = buddhahood.

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 05:50 AM

Dharmakhaya Body is the same as Yang Shen body and it is Immortal and empty.It can take form and materialise if it whant.And this is Xian fo=Buddhahood.

 

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 05:56 AM

Double post.

Edited by Brian, 07 January 2017 - 06:00 AM.

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 05:59 AM

Got a link, Seeker?

I'd be interested to read that from the source if you don't mind.

Thanks.

From an Internet search:
http://vutruhuyenbi....bda7b8b4ed6f28c

EDIT: Fixed link...

Edited by Brian, 07 January 2017 - 05:59 AM.

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 07:15 AM

I have read most of the Secret Buddhism pdf, while it is jam packed with Buddhist philosophies, principles and doctrines, the practices are not entirely how a Buddhist would go about things.
 
No Buddhist would ever suggest that you replace Buddha in a chant or prayer with the god, saint, angel or deity of your choice, especially in an initiation or empowerment. A true Buddhist only takes refuge in Buddha, without exception.
 
It is an interesting read though.


Not true

You are thinking in a box - a religious box

A "true" Buddhist might say exactly this
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Posted 07 January 2017 - 07:36 AM

Exactly, true buddhist knows that all those saints are generally bodhisattvas, even sutras approves it.

When someone is praying i will appears as such and such, if someone wants power i will appear as such and such deva/angel/god etc.

Generally all religion you practice is buddhist in different form.


Diamonds sutra says so too but in context of enlightenment and the difference in depth. Other sutras like surangama says also the same but in context of beings, angels that they are generally the same but the difference is depth of their realization or different way of expressing the desire (bodhisattvas taking form to you if you have enough merit/destiny to have such experience) etc.

Edited by SeekerOfHealing, 07 January 2017 - 07:37 AM.

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