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#1 imtyerd

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 11:30 PM

Hi,

 

I have been trying to practise semen retention since the start of the year. I have not watched porn or masturbated this year either so I've exercised a lot of discipline on that front.

 

Problem is I have wet dreams on average 4-5 times a week! Which is preventing me from experiencing the benefits of semen retention.

 

Basic math would say I've had around 150 wet dreams this year and its true! 

 

I initially thought it was due to sleeping on my back or drinking water before bed but I've stopped both and wet dreams still continue.

 

I have started learning about Tao and the different techniques that can help this sort of thing, I just want to know if anyone else has experienced this many wet dreams and has used these techniques successfully?

 

Some help about this issue would be awesome.

 

Thanks


Edited by imtyerd, 06 September 2015 - 11:32 PM.


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Posted 07 September 2015 - 12:49 PM

In my opinion it sounds like you are still either conciously or unconciously having a lot of lustful thoughts and desires. Either around real people or fantasising in your mind.

 

Best to avoid this as much as possible, try to have more creative "hobbies" or passions that A. Divert your energy towards them, and B. Occupy your mind and allow you to ponder and come up with ideas/thoughts even while not actively doing the task/hobby or whatever.

 

More excercise and meditation will definitely help too.

 

I'm sure others can chime in with some more indepth tips.

 

Best of luck!


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Posted 07 September 2015 - 01:03 PM

I have started learning about Tao and the different techniques that can help this sort of thing, I just want to know if anyone else has experienced this many wet dreams and has used these techniques successfully?

 

Are you using some techniques at the moment? If so, what are you practicing ?



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Posted 07 September 2015 - 01:53 PM

In my opinion it sounds like you are still either conciously or unconciously having a lot of lustful thoughts and desires. Either around real people or fantasising in your mind.


More excercise and meditation will definitely help too.

I agree with this assessment.   Working up to a long meditation time before sleep might help neutralize future thoughts.  One advanced member here recommended 2 hours of meditation before sleep (tough, but its a goal to build up to).   Light blanket and loose bed clothes might help too.  You want no stimulation.  Which would include TV or computer before bed. 


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Posted 07 September 2015 - 02:58 PM

Do you think about sex when you are awake?

How do you handle thoughts and impulses?



#6 imtyerd

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Posted 07 September 2015 - 03:51 PM

In my opinion it sounds like you are still either conciously or unconciously having a lot of lustful thoughts and desires. Either around real people or fantasising in your mind.

 

Do you think about sex when you are awake?

How do you handle thoughts and impulses?

 

I admit I still have lustful desires.

 

But I often go days without thinking about sex but those days I still have wet dreams

 

Recently I've started learning about the sexual energy from Mantak Chia's books. Some of his exercises you have to be in an aroused state - I just use my mind and no porn.

 

I don't really handle thoughts/impulses - they always go away themselves. I do exercise however. 

 

I'm probably confusing some people here because I'm all over the place. Let me clear things up.

 

On the days I have no sexual thoughts I have wet dreams,

 

On the days I have some sexual thoughts (so I can do Mantak Chia's exercises), I have wet dreams which would make sense since I don't have an outlet.

 

I want to practice semen retention as well as the exercises that require an aroused state.

 

See the problem here?

 

It seems being even being slightly aroused (consciously or subconsciously) makes me have a wet dream.

 

I don't know science, but is it hormones or something - I am 22.

 

Are you using some techniques at the moment? If so, what are you practicing ?

 

I've been reading Mantak Chia's Taoist Secret of Love, and he has this technique for wet dream sufferers (lol) where you pull in your perineum/anus and hold that for as long as possible. Pretty much a kegel. 

 

I've been trying to learn Testicle Breathing/Big Draw.

 

 

I agree with this assessment.   Working up to a long meditation time before sleep might help neutralize future thoughts.  One advanced member here recommended 2 hours of meditation before sleep (tough, but its a goal to build up to).   Light blanket and loose bed clothes might help too.  You want no stimulation.  Which would include TV or computer before bed. 

 

Thanks, I'm definitely going to stop the stimulation before heading of to bed. Perhaps read a book. I'm not overly stimulated however. I meditate for 1 hour before I go to bed every night.


Edited by imtyerd, 07 September 2015 - 03:55 PM.


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Posted 07 September 2015 - 04:30 PM

Hi imtyerd,

Many people have had trouble with the "healing love" materials from Mantak Chia, especially those suggesting combining retention with arousal. I´d stay away from those for the time being.

Another member, Lin, posted a practice to be done during periods of retention which I reposted in the Day 34 thread presently at the bottom of this page. You might find it helpful.

Liminal

Edited by liminal_luke, 07 September 2015 - 04:30 PM.


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Posted 07 September 2015 - 07:48 PM

. I meditate for 1 hour before I go to bed every night.

thats the reason then.


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Posted 07 September 2015 - 07:53 PM

Course there's also solving the problem from the other angle.  Masturbate 2 or 3 times a week and see if the problem is solved.  If so, then twice a week.   Then once.  

 

At 22, we're filled with hormones and sperm.  There is a time to make peace with our bodies. 

 

Instead of putting force into resistance, go with it, by your own decision thus keeping your control.


Edited by thelerner, 07 September 2015 - 07:54 PM.

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#10 imtyerd

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Posted 07 September 2015 - 07:56 PM

thats the reason then.

 

I'm intrigued. How does meditating before bed cause my wet dreams? 



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Posted 07 September 2015 - 08:34 PM

I'm intrigued. How does meditating before bed cause my wet dreams? 

 

During this time he continued to adhere faithfully to Shoju's request that he pursue his training and not settle for a small attainment. As a result. Hakuin experienced several more enlightenments. However,  despite the deepening of understanding that these enlightenments brought him, they also began to take a physical toll on him. He contracted what is referred to as "meditation sickness" (zen-byo). which manifested itself in twelve symptoms:

 

1. fire-like burning in the head
2. loins and legs cold as ice
3. eyes constantly watering

4. ringing in the ears

5. instinctive shrinking from sunlight

6. irrepressible sadness in darkness or shade

7. thinking an intolerable burden

8. recurrent bad dreams that sapped one's strength

9. emission of semen during sleep

10. restlessness and nervousness during waking hours
11. difficulty digesting food

12. cold chills unrelieved by layers of clothing'


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#12 Ell

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Posted 08 September 2015 - 08:27 PM

I've been into philosophical Taoism for awhile now, but, man, I do not get all the semen talk on here. I think you should just beat off. But, hey, what do I know. 


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Posted 08 September 2015 - 08:40 PM

Don't beat off. Conserve your sexual energy and redirect it to your spiritual pursuits.
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Posted 10 September 2015 - 12:12 AM

I have been trying to practise semen retention since the start of the year. I have not watched porn or masturbated this year either

 

Why?

 

 

Problem is I have wet dreams on average 4-5 times a week! Which is preventing me from experiencing the benefits of semen retention.

 

Perhaps there just aren't as many benefits as you were lead to believe...?


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#15 imtyerd

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Posted 10 September 2015 - 04:06 AM

Perhaps there just aren't as many benefits as you were lead to believe...?

 

Maybe you're right, but I'd rather try it out and come to my own conclusion. Can I ask, have your tried it?


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Posted 10 September 2015 - 05:06 AM

Maybe you're right, but I'd rather try it out and come to my own conclusion.

 

Fair enough.

 

 

Can I ask, have your tried it?

 

No, not for any extended period of time.

 

In the last year, I've seen many on TDB asking about semen retention. Some try it because they are addicted to porn, some are unable to form relationships, some have issues in the bedroom, etc; and many who ask about it are having an issue of some sort with the semen retention itself. Pains, cravings, wet dreams... I've experienced my own sexual issues, like everyone, but have been able to resolve them in what I would consider more natural, healthy ways.

 

Forcing oneself not to have the natural desires that almost every human has? Doesn't seem healthy to me.


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