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#1 Brian

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:12 AM

Anyone noticed what appears to be a slow-motion trainwreak currently underway in Venezuela? Any Bums there, from there or with close connections there? I'm wondering what the insider's perspective is...
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Posted 05 May 2014 - 01:04 PM

Forget the insiders perspective. If you encounter a very vocal Venezuelan internet-active person ranting about the evil government, it's just a sheeple.

 

Well, I can give you a rich and concise answer, but it takes some time on your part.

Since you seem inquisitive though, here you go:

 

current events

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com

Starting with this one might be a good idea though: http://venezuelanaly.../analysis/10533

 

past events (for better understanding of current events)

("The Revolution Will Not Be Televised")

 

 

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:13 PM

Venezuela has a bread shortage. The government has decided bakers are the problem.
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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:28 PM

It's been happening for awhile now. People have been eating there pets for sustenance. 

 

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:34 PM

For comparison:

https://venezuelanal....com/news/12986

 

The topic that's left open is whether those bakeries did it because they had trouble surviving financially (and if so, due to own fault?) or because they are capitalist-minded, so to speak. (A bakery having plenty of flour stocked sounds fishy, though.)

It's interesting (and totally predictable) that the US press article completely ignores the fact the thing was initiated by customer complaints. that wouldn't fit the evil-government narrative. And of course the headline is deceptive. After all, to the masses, anything below headline is fine print.


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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:37 PM

The beatings will continue until morale improves...
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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:43 PM

they talked about them because is a strategic area as it is Ecuador, nobody talks about Bolivia or Central America countries, they are less important though they are having similar or worst problems. As for Central America countries, still old banana republics.



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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:49 PM

Probably the only ones remaining are capitalist minded (ie make a profit).  I assume ones run by the government went under years ago.   The Marxist model of artificial price controls inevitably leads to shortages.   Human nature plus the law of supply and demand are working against the Venezuelan government.  Two forces that cannot be held back by bureaucrats or wishes. 

 

Marxism/Communism leads to financial ruin.  Price controls sound like magical solutions and they work for a bit, then inevitably they back fire and create shortages.   There are so many examples of Marxist and Fascist countries that have taken over land, factories/production and seen surplus's reverse themselves within a few years.  It happens so regularly and predictably that this is Economics 101. 

 

That's not saying Unimpeded Capitalism is without problems, but Marxism is a quick guarantee of ruin.  That's why the two largest communist countries, China and Russia, after literally creating conditions that starved millions of there own people turned to Capitalism, and saw life expectancies increase and dire poverty go way down. 

 

Brians OP request (for an honest answer from a normal citizen) would be dangerous for someone living there to answer honestly.    


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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:55 PM

Anyone notice the size of the government-mandated standard loaf, or what horrible thing they were using the misappropriated government flour for?
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Posted 17 March 2017 - 02:05 PM

Anyone notice the size of the government-mandated standard loaf, or what horrible thing they were using the misappropriated government flour for?

article in Owledge link said a standard Ven. loaf was mandated at 180 grams or 6.35 ounces.  Kind of like a large roll.  In the U.S a loaf of white bread is typically 16 to 22 oz. 


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 08:36 AM

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 11:02 AM

Meme money....wow. Surreal.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: :ninja:  :ninja:    

 

http://thelibertaria...ced-pepe-memes/



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Posted 23 March 2017 - 12:50 PM

Meme money....wow. Surreal. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :ninja: :ninja:

http://thelibertaria...ced-pepe-memes/

An inflation rate like they are experiencing is essentially a flame-out; the only real question is how steep the glidepath is.

Think of economies like the Weimar Republic or Zimbabwe...
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Posted 31 March 2017 - 02:41 PM

Venezuela's Maduro decried as 'dictator' after Congress annulled
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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:32 AM

For those who haven't been paying attention...

The government just seized the General Motors factory.

Protestors are being shot in the streets.

After years of confiscating guns from the citizenry, the President has now promised to arm his supporters to help stop the opposition.
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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:42 AM

For those who haven't been paying attention...

The government just seized the General Motors factory.

Protestors are being shot in the streets.

After years of confiscating guns from the citizenry, the President has now promised to arm his supporters to help stop the opposition.

 

 

That's crazy why didn't they go for Ford?


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