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#33 MooNiNite

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 07:23 AM

Then higher than that are spirit immortals which are the astral travelling ones, or OBE/lucid dreaming whatever you may want to call it, but not everyone that is lucid dreaming is an immortal, only those that can do it consciously and can prepare for the next world or that can choose consciously their next world to live in without returning on earth. And above them are the Celestial immortals.

 

 when choosing your next world, are you choosing a body?


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Posted 06 June 2014 - 08:34 PM

I have no idea
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Posted 04 June 2016 - 01:05 PM

Try putting dantien (丹田) into google translate and see what you get :).

 

Hehe. I don't know why, but I tried it. Came up with 'pubes'.


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Posted 07 June 2016 - 07:33 AM

Isn't belly 肚子? Can anyone translate dantien or give a precise etymology? I noticed that nobody did.


Edited by Radiant, 07 June 2016 - 07:36 AM.


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Posted 07 June 2016 - 08:04 AM

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Posted 08 June 2016 - 12:38 AM

I live in china, and I have heard some refer to the dantian when speaking of the lower abdomen or belly. Different sources translate the dantian in a different way.

 

丹田 translated by some sources is the pubic region or energy center or cinnabar field or stomach or field where ones qi resides

 

丹 can mean, red, pellet, powder or cinnabar

田 can mean, field, arable land or cultivated. 

 

From the Chinese person sitting right next to me. She says it means 下腹部(xiafubu) meaning hypogastrium. It is most commonly amongst regular folk, as in people who don't practice qigong or any related things, regarded as the lower abdomen which can be in turn be called stomach or belly.

 

For those who don't know. Chinese is a language where one word can have loads of different meanings. And the meaning of the word can only be understood sometimes by knowing the person saying these words. The exact meaning of dantian is kind of pointless to know though. It makes very little difference in the great scheme of things i would have thought.

 

But anyway, hope this helps.


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Posted 11 November 2016 - 05:57 AM

In 丹books, there are three 丹田,up上丹田,middle中丹田,down下丹田。

丹田 is where 丹 come from.

There are many kinds of 丹。

烏肝black liver, 兔髓rabbit marrow and 黍米 millet

And real 丹 - 金丹golden dan

上丹田,inside the head
中丹田,in the middle of the chest
下丹田,in the belly

丹田 is the center of energy

Three centers

Edited by awaken, 11 November 2016 - 06:07 AM.

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 12:58 PM

Kind of belly, or rather a couple inches below the belly button and internal.  There are whole books written on the dan tien.  Different systems have there own interpretation.  In Shin Shin Toitsu Ki Aikido, the Dan tien was the center of balance, our pivot point, an important focal point; to place thoughts and drop our energy.  Those who took the 'dan tien as center of the universe' paradigm seriously ended up with awesome stability.  i never got there.


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Posted 12 November 2016 - 01:33 PM

Empty your mind and fill your belly. empty your mind and fill your heart. empty your mind and fill the spirit.

 

Three elixir fields vitality, energy, spirit or  Jing, Chi, Shen  these energies have no physical locations so are spoken in association of what does have a form, our bodies.

 

The temporary body is not the true method it transcends the material world so do not let the materialist that govern this world know, it will put them out of a job. With out gain or loss ends that game quickly. 


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Posted 13 November 2016 - 04:52 AM

丹田s are very different from 玄關。

丹田s have precise locations in body.

But 玄關 is not. It only show up because of a special state.

Sometimes we can see special lights inside 玄關。


People have different opinions about 下丹田。

Someone think it is lower than the navel ,but someone think it's in back of the navel ,not lower .

If we concentrate our mind on the breath, we will feel some warm feeling under the navel.

But if we can have a kind of pulse , which is different from blood pulse, we can know 下丹田 is in back of the navel.

The chi of the pulse will be absorbed by the middle dan tian.

Edited by awaken, 13 November 2016 - 05:06 AM.

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 05:27 AM

The three treasures that have associated location are pre heaven (no form) and are actually one energy. the post heaven techniques (with body) are equally as important. If you look for the elixir fields they are not there. Feeling the elixir fields they are very much there.


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Posted 13 November 2016 - 06:18 AM

Only if you open the empty , you can actually know where the three dan tian is.

Before that goal, the only feeling is Yang Chi come and down, circle around you body outside.

Most of people can not distinguish where Dan tian is , because they don't have open the channel of Kundalini.

If your channel of Kundalini is blocked, you won't have any feeling of dan tian.

The only way to open the channel is 無為法Wuwei.

It means that You can not DO anything to open it.

What you can do is to follow.

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 08:00 AM

What you can do is to follow. That is very wise and awesome awaken I look forward to having real conversations with you!


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Posted 13 November 2016 - 08:32 AM

There are four stages in the following.

1. Movements follow the Chi
2. Thoughts follow the Chi
3. chi follow the consciousness
4. A Different awareness happen, no ego exit

These four stages are produced by nature, not by artificiality.

Every stage is very complex.

Don't worry. There is only one rule- Wuwei.

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