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#81 dwai

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 09:47 AM

I don't trust vedanta: it looks like a fake spirituality based on philosophical talks.
Gurus use to minutely describe what you're about to find in your spiritual quest, thus preventing you from discovering entirely different truths.

In fact, this is pretty much the Hua t'ou meditation practice of Ch'an buddhism. The only difference being that in Buddhism, you rely on the question to develop a strong feeling of doubt and settle the mind in that. It's not used to discover a self by mean of reflective thinking, but to stop the mind and prepare oneself to experience reality as it is.

 

CC,

 

You are free to believe what you want. Those of us who live the teachings of Vedanta don't need your seal of approval ;)


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Posted 13 December 2016 - 09:54 AM

it seems some people want to impose their ignorance/limits on such subjects as if their ignorance/limits really do define/represent such subjects
Newsflash the ignorance is just that, ignorance
and it will never be able to have a clear sight about any subject
It is ignorant!

often such subjects are vaster than people currently realize

Edited by mystery, 13 December 2016 - 10:03 AM.

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 02:40 PM

Thank you for sharing what you felt comfortable with, the vagueness speaks volumes you have a legitimate practice, it is obvious, and I am pleased to receive real testimony concerning your gurudev.
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Posted 13 December 2016 - 05:18 PM

Thank you for being accepting pilgrim. And not being harsh to me.
I'm sorry if I came across bad in ways. I'm not a great writer, but it's all in the spirit of not caring about offending someone's pride.
But still I care.
Idk just sorry if I came off badly.

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 05:24 PM

I just see pride as a big block
So not something to respect in anyone including myself
Arrogance is such a stumbling block for me
Arrogance comes before the crash
I've felt crashed for awhile haha :(

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 11:56 PM

CC,

You are free to believe what you want. Those of us who live the teachings of Vedanta don't need your seal of approval ;)


Fortunately, I am.
And in all honesty, I would be surprised to the highest degree if I could really make a vedantin philosopher reflect on those points just by typing a short post.

BTW, this branch of the thread originally came from a vedantin that introduced the concept of Atman, pretending it was an absolute, self-evident, trascendent reality in the first place.
So, who's trying to put seals and definitions?
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Posted 14 December 2016 - 12:14 AM

it seems some people want to impose their ignorance/limits on such subjects as if their ignorance/limits really do define/represent such subjects
Newsflash the ignorance is just that, ignorance
and it will never be able to have a clear sight about any subject


Ok, let's try to put our feet on a common ground to summarize your points and see if we can manage to agree on a single post.

1) Yogiraj is a powerful Himalayan Master who is channeling an immortal yogi named Babaji. I don't believe that, therefore I'm ignorant.

2) Kriya yoga techniques work on the nervous system and they give strong sensations and bizarre experiences. You received a slightly modified version from him that gives you strong sensations and bizarre experiences, therefore he's a real guru. And BTW, I'm ignorant for some reason related to that.

3) If there are people who aren't as ignorant as me, and still they think that he's a fraud. ... it's because of their karmic imprints that they cannot recognize the truth which you're blessed to witness.

4) You've seen the movie Kumare, therefore you're spirituality immune to frauds from India.
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Posted 14 December 2016 - 12:29 AM

Go ahead and pretend your analysis of what I said is accurate. But anyone with basic reading and reasoning skills will be able to see it's not if they choose to read my posts.

Even if I've been coming across badly in ways, that doesn't take away from much of what I've

You're distorting what I said into what it's not
Why even do that?

Edited by mystery, 14 December 2016 - 12:39 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2016 - 04:57 AM

Thank you for being accepting pilgrim. And not being harsh to me.
I'm sorry if I came across bad in ways. I'm not a great writer, but it's all in the spirit of not caring about offending someone's pride.
But still I care.
Idk just sorry if I came off badly.

It's Okay Mystery the words I wrote could have been less inflammatory as well. Apologies.


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Posted 14 December 2016 - 08:43 AM

Fortunately, I am.
And in all honesty, I would be surprised to the highest degree if I could really make a vedantin philosopher reflect on those points just by typing a short post.

BTW, this branch of the thread originally came from a vedantin that introduced the concept of Atman, pretending it was an absolute, self-evident, trascendent reality in the first place.
So, who's trying to put seals and definitions?

 

Been there...done that! It is for each of us to realize in our own way, and when the time is right, my friend :)

 

It's best to keep following things in mind (given that you are a proponent of Buddha dharma and Dao) - give up the tendency to hold on to positions. Holding on to positions causes pain and suffering. Being free of positions is freedom. 

 

So it doesn't matter if there is Atman or Anatta. Don't latch on to either. Just be...and be free.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 06:14 AM

Gurunath is not a fake guru.

 

From what I heard from him, he has learnt under Swami Satyananda Giri and Swami Paramahansa Hariharananda Giri (both from Karar Ashram, disciples of Sri Yukteswar), also has learnt from Satya Charan Lahiri (grandson of Lahiri Mahasaya) and Shivabalayogi. Also as it is widely known, he says he has also learnt under the guidance of Shiv-Goraksha Babaji (Mahavatar Babaji from AOY), learnt directly under him, NOT as a channel-kind-of-thing as it is being written here.

 

His Kriya is a bit more on the agressive side than Classic Lahiri Family Kriya(more breath-retentions and bandhas, which means more prana/kundalini):

There are some slight changes on Kriya Pranayama, Navi Kriya and the Paravashta phase at the end (concentration). The rest is pretty much the same.

He also gives 2nd Kriya (Thokkar) as far as I heard, but very very rarely, basically only if you visit him for some time on his Ashram in India, and show that you are trully commited (practicing for hours and hours a day for years) plus having achieved Kechari Mudra and being stable on Vajra Nadi while doing Kriya Pranayama.

 

If you want to get initiated by him, that's great, he will definitely give a hugeeee boost on your practice and motivation, it will surely be an amazing experience.

But.. on the other hand, if you are considering being initiated by one of his "teachers", then better forget it and go pratice Ennio Nimis' Kriya online or AYP (add Maha Mudra before Pranayama, it will reduce 50% of the overloads, and if you still have them, perhaps focus Deep meditation mantra on the brow or solar center, it should reduce all the symptons of overload, which are mainly caused due to the non-focus-on-a-specific-part style of the mantra meditation I believe.)

 

The Cons are it's very expensive to go to his initiation, but I heard the money is exclusively for travel expenses/improve the ashram/feed the children that go there.

 

Gurunath is very serious about Kriya Yoga, but you can't consider yourself a serious student of him unless you are, at least, practicing 144 Kriya Pranayamas per day. He is very liberal in themes like food, sex, lifestyle, etc (as long as you practice every day).. but on the other side he is a bit heavy on the indian-cultural side of things related to India is the best, all the best Masters in history are from India, Jesus came to India to learn from a Nath Master, Buddha was a Yogi, Daoism came from India, etc.. all the rest of the world should thank us, go india india india! I think it's a bit over the top, but it's ok, indeed India has brought amazing things to the world.

 

According to the time it will take to get proper results from this Kriya (nirvikalpa samadhi), it will take some time. If you check some of his videos he says you should look into decades..

Gurunath says he has practiced around 12h per day for decades. This will put things in perspective...

 

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Edited by Nothingness, 10 February 2017 - 06:23 AM.

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