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#33 Dzogchen

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 11:33 AM

I am a strict Paleo dieter(local, no GMO, pesticides, antibiotics, hormones, grass fed free range) doing Keto for almost a year, that has been in Ketosis now for 2 months straight. I started because of severe GI problems I was having, and have never felt better in my life. Plus, it doesn't hurt that I am losing a lot of body fat without muscle and becoming very lean! Technically speaking we do not even need carbohydrates at all to survive. There are many people who live very happy, healthy lives with zero carbs. Fats and proteins are where it's at!

 

If anyone is interested in the Paleo or Ketogenic diet please let me know if you would like any advice!



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 12:02 PM

If anyone is interested in the Paleo or Ketogenic diet please let me know if you would like any advice!

 

Hi Dzogchen. I wouldn't mind some advice. 

I've been steadily cutting down on carbs recently. Initially it was for fat loss but I can see the benefits of a total lifestyle change. Mainly my diet consists of organic meat, veg, fruit, nuts, eggs and a little organic milk and organic yoghurts. Potatoes, rice, bread, noodles and pasta have all but disappeared from my life. Hunger is something I'm trying to overcome at the minute.

I wouldn't want to see all the good work I've put in over the last few weeks come undone.



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 07:36 PM

That's great to hear! I actually was battling with hunger as well and tried many different things. I had done local sourced food for a while and then was on and off Paleo. I have been strict Paleo for 4 months now and been in Ketosis for over 2 months straight.

 

The most important thing to remember with any type of diet is that everyone is different. With that being said, most Ketogenic dieters calculate what they eat by figuring out their macros. Basically this means that they figure out the exact % of what to eat for each day. No matter what, to begin you will want to stay under 30g/day as far as carbs, under 20g if you can. The most common macro % is:

  • 65% fat
  • 30% protein
  • 5% carbohydrates.

Some do 45/45/10 (and everything in between), again it will all depend on what works best for you!

 

Now this is just a general rule, but seems to work well for most, even if you don't hit every % perfectly. If you do mostly protein, that is called a Protein Sparred Modified Fast and even though it will rip the fat off your body it is hard to do and some say it can be a little unhealthy.

 

You can do a weekly, or once every two week "reefeed" or carb load where you take in as many carbs as you want for 12-24 hours. This is to replenish glycogen, but there are always debates on what is best, and many debate this aspect as well. As I said above there are people that do zero carbs and even entire cultures that have gone 1000 years low-to-no carbs, so just play around and see what works for you! When reefeding, it is known as a Cyclical Ketogenic Diet or CKD.

 

There is also doing a small carb load just before and after a long or hardcore workout. Some do this for energy boost to gain muscle/mass, I just workout without the carbs and do fine, it all depends on what works for you. This is called Targeted Ketogenic Diet or TKD.

 

Honestly, I personally don't count calories and I just ballpark figure out daily fats and proteins now. Just make sure carbs are very low.

 

No matter what you choose, fruit will add up quick, it is full of carbs. Usually a few days of meat, leafy vegetables and under 30g of carbs will put you into Ketosis. 36 hour fast with only Coconut oil will probably do it. Medium Chain Triglycerides or MCTs help out a lot. I recommend Cold Pressed Virgin Coconut Oil, it is great for your entire body (I eat it, put it on my skin/hair and cook with it) but it is awesome for Ketosis! Also gives an awesome amount of energy. Many different things can knock you out of Ketosis, mainly carbohydrates. Some can go into Ketosis in a day, others may take a few days to a week.

 

I would also stay away from the nuts, they usually have a lot of carbs. No nuts, or fruit, and I would stay away from milk/yogurt or most dairy. Cheese is usually low carb, a lot of Keto dieters eat plenty of cheese. I am strictly Paleo so no refined sugars, gluten, grains, legumes, dairy. Nothing with hormones, antibiotics, GMO-free, free range preferably frass fed. Nuts are fine on Paleo, just that when you want to go Keto they will add carbs fast. I usually make my own homeade almond milk and it is delicious, but if you do nuts keep them to a minimum. Yogurt is actually a very hard thing for most peolpe to give up, but no dairy is best (besides cheese). 

 

If you adhere to these rules, you will find that over time your cravings for these foods goes down. Everything else starts to taste better as well when you aren't on the SAD (Standard American Diet). When you go into Ketosis, you start getting less hungry as often and have less cravings, that's a huge benefit of Keto. Check everything you eat online. Just google things like "almond nutrition" and there will be charts that show how many carbs are in a cup of almonds. Use this to keep carbs low.

 

Once you get into Ketosis, I would buy Ketostix. These are tabs you urinate on that will tell you when you are in Ketosis and how moderate your levels are. This will help you find a good balance of things you can eat. Some people can eat 80g+ of carbs each day and stay in Ketosis, once you are there for a while it gets much easier and you will have a lot more leeway. While in Ketosis, don't forget to drink a lot of water. 

 

Here is a good Keto calculator if you want to try: http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com/

 

There is also plenty of good info and friendly people on www.paleohacks.com

 

There are a lot of different things that can come up or can be confusing. I will message you my email and if you are in the US my number to so you can text/call if needed. I have been studying these types of things 4-20 hours a day for the past 16 weeks, so I am definitely interested and ready to help.

 

Last thing I will say here is that even just being Paleo has greatly helped out my Qigong. I think that Paleo/Qigong-Taiji combination can turn anyone's life around. Also doing Qigong, Keto and Taiji I notice I am much healthier, happier, and have got very lean lately. I haven't been sick in a very long time. 

 

Feel free for anyone to PM me for any advice!


Edited by Dzogchen, 26 September 2013 - 12:14 PM.


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 07:44 PM

The Ultimate List of Keto Foods
 
Green = The Absolute Best: No/Low Sugars, High Polyunsaturated Fats
Blue = Very Good: No/Low Sugars, High Saturated Fats
Orange = Good: No/Low Sugars, Low-Moderate Fats
Purple = Acceptable: Moderate Sugars/Glycemic, High Polyunsaturated Fats 
Grey = Barely Acceptable: Moderate Sugars/Glycemic, High Saturated Fats
Red = Unacceptable (use sparingly): Moderate Sugars/Glycemic, Low-Moderate Fats
 
(the foods are linked to nutritional data)
 
Cheeses
Dairy
Dressings
Fats & Oils
Fish
Flours/Meals/Powders
Fowl
Fruits, low sugar/glycemic
Fruits, moderate sugar/glycemic
Meats
Nuts/Legumes
Seeds
Shell Fish
Vegetables, low sugar/glycemic
Vegetables, moderate sugar/glycemic

 

Tons more great info here and very in-depth:

 

http://forum.bodybui...php?t=132598293


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Posted 15 July 2013 - 03:57 AM

Thanks Dzogchen. That list is exactly what I need.
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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:44 PM

Not sure how ketogenic diets fare in terms of blood acidity and other metrics, etc for general health, though?

 

Anyhow, here's 8 attitudes generally shown to have helped in healing cancer:

Need a Healing Miracle?

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After reviewing 1574 cases of people who enjoyed spontaneous remissions from cancer, IONS discovered that the people who heal all make the same eight significant changes on a mental and emotional level. What excites me is that these changes match the same discoveries I made when learning how to heal my own tumour with NLP. What's even more exciting is that anyone can make these changes, especially with a little help. Here are the eight factors that help healing to occur:

 

1 Face the crisis and rekindle the power to find a new way of life that is fulfilling and meaningful.

2 Find meaning in the experience, and find reasons to live whilst accepting the diagnosis, but not the prognosis, and above all, believe in a positive outcome.

3 Be comfortable with and express positive and negative emotions. Learn to say 'no' when necessary.

4 Have at least one strong loving relationship, and a supportive connection with an organisation or community.

5 Work in partnership with your physician

6 Take control of your life, including personal, professional, emotional,

Some of the MAIN ones are taking responsibility yourself and having good relationships...


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 06:01 PM

I am sure if on Keto you could probably supplement with lots of alkaline substances, even baking soda will lower blood ph.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:56 AM

Artemisinin (Wormwood)

Artemisinin contains two oxygen atoms hooked together that break down in the presence of iron, by creating very reactive free radicals that kill malaria parasites and cancer cells. Both cancer cells and malaria parasites sequester iron, accumulating as much as 1000 times what normal cells store. Giving artemisinin to people with malaria or cancer results in destruction of these abnormal cells and leaves normal cells unaffected. Artemisinin is a cancer bomb! 
 
Generally, chemotherapy is toxic to both cancer cells and normal cells. In the case of artemisinin this is not true; only the cancer cells are damaged. In more than 4000 case studies, no significant toxicity from artemisinin has been found, which makes it far different than conventional chemotherapy.
 
There are three forms of artemisinin: artemisinin, artesunate, and artemether. All are absorbed well after oral intake and cross the blood brain barrier. They are best absorbed on an empty stomach. The intestine builds up resistance to absorbing, so it is wise to only take the drug for a few days and then stopping for a few days as this resistance is reversible.

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The substance, artemisinin, is derived from the wormwood plant and has been used in China since ancient times to treat malaria. Earlier work by Henry Lai and Narendra Singh, both UW bioengineers, indicated that artemisinin alone could selectively kill cancer cells while leaving normal cells unharmed. 
 
The new compound appears to vastly improve that deadly selectivity, according to a new study that appeared in a recent issue of the journal Life Sciences. In addition to Lai and Singh, co-authors include Tomikazu Sasaki and Archna Messay, both UW chemists. 
 
"By itself, artemisinin is about 100 times more selective in killing cancer cells as opposed to normal cells," Lai said. "In this study, the new artemisinin compound was 34,000 times more potent in killing the cancer cells as opposed to their normal cousins. So the tagging process appears to have greatly increased the potency of artemisinin's cancer-killing properties."
 
In the study, researchers exposed human leukemia cells and white blood cells to the compound. While the leukemia cells quickly died, the white blood cells remained essentially unharmed.
 
Because they multiply so rapidly, most cancer cells need more iron than normal cells to replicate DNA
. To facilitate that, cancer cells have inlets on their surface, known as transferrin receptors, in greater numbers than other cells. Those receptors allow quick transport into the cell of transferrin, an iron-carrying protein found in blood. 
 
In creating the compound, researchers bound artemisinin to transferrin at the molecular level. The combination of the two ingredients appears to fool the cancer cell. 
 
"We call it a Trojan horse because the cancer cell recognizes transferrin as a natural, harmless protein," Lai said. "So the cell picks up the compound without knowing that a bomb – artemisinin – is hidden inside."


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:13 PM

High Voltage (Lightning)

One of the interesting things about people who've been struck with really high voltage, such as lightning, is that there has never been a recorded case of cancer, being struck by lightning, where it didn't cure the cancer.

Most of them [hit by lightning actually die].

But, those who have cancer and live, the cancer is gone. - Dr. Jerry Tennant

So if it doesn't kill you, it WILL cure you!!! :D


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I used to sit in full-lotus even on the can but there's not a lot of space in my bathroom. - drewhempel


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 06:36 PM

My toddler and i go lion hunting picking up dandylion leaves off the nature strip. I have loads dried but always forget to make tea. It is slightly relaxing and some liver health tablets i have contain dandylion among other thing and easy to pop one after a big drink makes it easier to maintain centre for a few days after
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 06:50 PM

i tried that a no carb diet diet but ended up feeling weak. You can power up with chi but it feels insubstatial, like i feel full of energy till i try doing heavy work and i just feel weak and dizzy. I dunno i think every body is different and works better on different things but every time i try some new radical diet i always end up going back to a little bit of everything, a varied balanced diet. Thats all u need, eat what you feel like and what makes you feel good and stop eating just before u feel full. Cant get any more simple than that! Maybe that no carb diet is good for someone who does no exercise and high fruit n veg n low fat is good for athletes, just to balance yourself out.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 02:21 AM

i tried that a no carb diet diet but ended up feeling weak.

I know a couple who have decided to try this diet.  I warned then about what you just spoke to.  Low carb, yes - no carb, no.

 

But we each will do what we thing might be best for us.

 

I am still taking my dandelion root capsules.  I have no idea if they are helping as they are supposed to prevent something that might not happen to me whether or not I am taking them.  Funny.


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 03:18 AM

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This is a reason why I keep coming back to TTB, for great information like above.

Thank you TG :)

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 03:55 AM

I have 2 related stories I will share.

1) My cousin is a naturopath and has been studying it for approx 30 years. She diagnosed herself with uterus cancer through looking at spots on her iris. Western doctors (GP's and specialists) did not believe her until they did tests. Her uterus was removed and she made herself herbal cocktails for healing and future well being. She is fine now.

She also used to mix me herbal cocktails whenever I had earaches when I was young and they always helped but they tasted disgusting ;p

2) My mother is a traditional Chinese medicine doctor and has been studying for approx 10 years. Last year she diagnosed herself with skin cancer. She went to the GP and they told her its not cancerous but just a growth. She went back a second time to the specialist because she did not believe it and told them she wants a sample taken and tested. Tests came back from the specialist that she had skin cancer on her thigh. First operation took most of the lump out and second operation took the circumference of the skin cancer just in case. Mum also made herself Chinese herbs to take for healing and preventative reasons which TCM is well known for.

Mums Chinese herbs are also disgusting but work ;)

Both women specialise in helping women who cant have children and they both have great track records. The mixture of herbs both prescribe seem to play a big part in helping the women fall pregnant and have children.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 04:32 AM

I believe that every antidote and cure can be found in nature, be it herb, plant, animal etc.

It seems to me that just like yin / yang theory everything has its opposite.

In my opinion nature screams to me to have an intelligent designer behind it...

But that is another discussion in itself worth discussing & exploring :)

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Edited by Formless Tao, 30 January 2014 - 04:43 AM.

"In Buddhism, there is no place for using effort. Just be ordinary and nothing special. Eat your food, move your bowels, pass water and when you're tired go and lie down. The ignorant will laugh at me, but the wise will understand."

 

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 06:33 AM

Hehehe.  Yeah, there are other places where we can talk about ID.

 

I do like your comment about "... everything has its opposite."

 

And I would also agree that there is a lot more we, the individual, can do to maintain our wellness.  But for most of us it is easier to go to a doctor.  (Personally, I don't think the doctors need my money so I keep it and do the best I can at maintaining my health.)


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