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#65 Ormus

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 06:02 PM

After reading this book do you think Master Wang teach Nei Dan or Nei Gong?

 

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#66 SeekerOfHealing

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 03:49 AM

He teaches mostly qigong

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 05:03 AM

Yes.But why all here marketing him as Nei Dan Master who teach Alchemy?

 

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 05:27 AM

They market whatever sells.

If you put regular people around high level qigong practices they will repeat whatever their master said or that they are practicing super-high neidan whatever.

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 05:48 AM

Yes he asks for huge sum of money for Qi Gong and Nei Gong without initiation.And around him people who made business of it all.So sad.

 

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 09:44 AM

After reading this book do you think Master Wang teach Nei Dan or Nei Gong?

 

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He teaches mostly qigong

 

You should better read the question before answering!

Obviously you have not read his book or completely misunderstood it, otherwise you wouldn't write such a false claim!

And concerning his seminars, he repeatedly taught the golden flower technique in those.

But as someone who believes that he should get everything for free,

you of course have your agenda to talk him and his material down because his seminars are not exactly for free.

Lol!


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#71 SeekerOfHealing

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 10:12 AM

His teachings focus on moving post natal energies here and there by meanings of mind which is generally consider a qigong. I don't see any neidan teachings there based on the english translation of the book.

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 10:23 AM

As has been mentioned elsewhere, he is considered a national treasure of China, and is not able to personally set his rates. I imagine things have changed from the time the Dragon Gate book was published, but that book clearly describes his emphasis on living simply, giving all his money to his teachers even though they refuse it, living in a small home with his family, only eating simple foods, only riding a bike and only keeping a stamp collection. I imagine things have changed since then, but I'd guess he doesn't really get involved in pricing and administration.

 

As for whether or not he teaches qigong or neidan..... the student with destiny will meet the right teacher regardless of the distance, while others might listen to the same teachings yet hear nothing. Poignancy is preeminent and precludes prevarication. Little point in talking to others about what they think is real. If you need to know, go find out. Or better yet cultivate some virtue and follow your way to your own true teachers.

 

It is part of the operation of the dao for what we don't need to not appear real to us. Does this mean it cannot be real to others?


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#73 SeekerOfHealing

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 10:54 AM

It is part of the operation of the dao for what we don't need to not appear real to us. Does this mean it cannot be real to others?


this is basis of the confusion. Not operation of the Dao, if Dao ought to be confusing people it would be nonsense. I respect what you are saying but this is far from reality. As to be judgmental is plain stupid of course but base on the teachings in Richard's book is straight qigong.

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 11:03 AM

If he is national treasure of China, why they dont support him and made him living better and not so modest.Again why treasure need so much dolars and fame?

 

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 11:35 AM

this is basis of the confusion. Not operation of the Dao, if Dao ought to be confusing people it would be nonsense. I respect what you are saying but this is far from reality. As to be judgmental is plain stupid of course but base on the teachings in Richard's book is straight qigong.

 

It is simply the operation of kan and li: how the true is often hidden within the false - how the false easily comes to cover the true.

 

To get to the truth we need to go deeper than what is on the surface.

 

Wang Liping's teachings may emphasize things that appear to be qigong, but is that the same as saying it has nothing to do with neidan? Is it not important to emphasize the development of a strong foundation?

 

In the book it is written that this is the first in what is intended to be a series of books. If this book mainly covers things that appear to be qigong, does that mean this teacher only teaches according to this book? How is one to know what is taught after the stages covered in the book, or how what comes next is able to capitalize on the type of foundation developed by the initial practices?

 

I've now read at least a couple of translated texts which mention how beyond words the more advanced stages are anyway....

 

 

 

If he is national treasure of China, why they dont support him and made him living better and not so modest.Again why treasure need so much dolars and fame?

 

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What is simple is powerful. In the Dragon Gate book it talks about how after some seminar one of the rich attendants hosted dinner with many extravagant dishes.... however Wang Liping only ate some mung bean sprouts. The daodejing speaks of the Sage dissolving knowledge every day rather than learning more every day. Superior virtuous power is thus because it is not used. Inferior virtuous power becomes inferior through usage. The more usage, the more inferior.

 

I don't know much about how China operates, but it isn't a democracy, and the freedoms we are accustomed to in the west aren't the same there. Wang Liping's interest is in teaching, and he has demonstrated to his country the value in this. Thus he is able to do what he cares about and his country is able to benefit from it. Mutual benefit - if Wang Liping desired more comfort and money no doubt he could have it.


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